Your last post in that thread talked about Vermaelen too though didn't it? I think you're overreaching.
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Your last post in that thread talked about Vermaelen too though didn't it? I think you're overreaching.
I don't care about the wilshere part of your post. It is what it is. 0 prem goals this season for an attacking mid.
And that vermalean quote was sticking up for wenger. A man who has done a thousand times more for arsenal than vermalean and wilshere put together. what sort of person criticises a man for a decision they themselves would have and supported at the time? Just idiotic football fans I guess. A reasonable person wouldn't dare.
BONBON is the most original poster on GW.
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Holy fuck....
No wonder Sagan has gone dogshit on the pitch.
No why would you? The 99.9% are wrong.
And your previous comment to this
and lets see if we can get this straight:Quote:
Its almost sad that vermalean has been well and truely found out. it was a guilty pleasure sticking it to him after every game where he'd invariably facked up. Now everybody accepts hes the biggest central defensive fraud in premier league history wheres the fun? But i'll never truely forgive wenger for making him captain
-You're allowed to bang on about what a bad decision it was for Vermaelen to be made captain because you said so at the start.
- The fact that some people (and at the start of the season there were quite a few that thought Koscielny and Mertesacker were/are good defenders and that Vermaelen shouldn't be guaranteed a starting spot) thought that it was a good choice (mainly due to a lack of other options, mind. Who else is there?) means that even if they now think that it was a bad decision they can't say so. For a start you don't even know whether the poster supported the decision or not.
"but...but...only I'm allowed to criticise it!". And you're saying others are behaving like children?
So? He's not still on the untouchables list is he? Haven't we all agreed he's shit now?
Just give me a list of the untouchable players then I'll know what I can and can't say beforehand. Bergkamp is one (cos I got banned for saying vieira was better than him even though Madrid were all over him but there was not a peep about bergkamp from spain). Wilshere...jenkinson maybe.... Any more?
Well the tone of both talking about Vermaelen and Wilshere is consistent (you knowing it all), therefore it's quite likely that is why you were banned from it, not because you were talking about one particular player. It's telling you that coming in to a thread every match to self-aggrandise is just as tiring from you as it is from everyone else that might have done it before.
You can talk about whoever you like but just like everyone else in the history of this forum has had something done to them (a post deletion/thread deletion/thread banning etc) no matter what their views on Wilshere.
I can't remember you being banned from any other thread so it's hardly like you've been continually persecuted. Do people disagree with you? Well yeah of course they do, you already made up that 95% stat about Vermaelen so do you expect disagreements to you or don't you?
BOBN - maybe this isn't the place for you.
Try another Arsenal forum.
I've got 300 odd posts in here since the 2011 move or whatever. One of the lowest post rates of active members. Cant be that relentless.
What's tiring is seeing the same faces plus wenger being blamed for every ill (but that's ok of course). Provocative phrases like "wage thief" can be used but thats ok. without those I'd have no motivation.
Given you rarely come on to say anything else other than praise yourself, have a go at Jenkinson, Wilshere, Vermaelen or Bergkamp it's probably a large percentage.
Your second line: Loads of people have been called out on how they've layed in to Wenger unfairly hence why some often say they're the ones being targeted too, so I don't really know what you're trying to say.
Haven't bothered reading the spat - and Wilshere's not shit. BUT I don't have a problem with the suggestion that Wilshere is over-hyped - generally by Anglophile pundits. He is not our saviour - and a 21 year old should not be regarded as such. The problem is that for all his dynamism, Wilshere has much to learn before he can be regarded as a match winner. Even with our average squad, we are capable of playing effectively without him - and its no surprise that we can put in performances when he is not on the pitch. Yesterday, for example, Diaby (once he had come up to speed) gave us something a little different in MF. Its a crying shame that he will never play consistently enough to make a real difference to our team - and Wenger IMO is mistaken by persisting with him to the exclusion of signing an alternative. But in a fantasy world - if we could play a fit Diaby on a regular basis, he would probably keep Wilshere on the fringes of the first team. I love Wilshere - but he is not, and should not expected to be 'world class' at this stage of his career. I have said it before, but I am concerned about Wilshere's capacity to improve with a dearth of players, and a manager whose strength is not really as a football coach.
Wenger played him into the red once again when it wasn't even necessary. The midfield have been struggling for ages and I can't understand why Rosicky wasn't given a few games to give Jack a rest. He wasn't getting battered for months and wasn't exactly playing well either. Not to the point where he was a vital cog any way. I agree, I fit Diaby could add a lot to this team because he's something else when confident and fit. Rosicky too. Also, why not try playing Arshavin in the middle further up field? The midfield look exhausted and I'm worried Arteta or Cazorla will pick up an injury next. They've been looking knackered for ages.
We have Wilshere, Cazorla, Chamberlain and possibly (but probably not) Sagna and Gibbs. These are our football players. Rosicky too if he wasn't injured all the time and Arshavin and Podolski if they hadn't already been destroyed by our shitty, shitty club.
All our other alleged players are dogshite. That's the reality. Dogshite garbage we make do with and who wouldn't get within a mile of a proper football team anywhere in Europe. This is why some players get a pass while others don't, because they are actual players. It's not about favourites its about reality. Jack can kick a ball and pass, ****s like Walcott and Diaby can't. Simple. Can't play football if you can't pass, unless you manage to land a gig with Arsenal where a segment of the fans will cover for you, while stuffing your pockets too.
Agreed. All those goals and assists from Theo over the years proves he can't kick or pass :rolleyes:
Do you love being humiliated or something?
Anyway spuds losing is on now. MOTD2
I'll take that as a yes
More importantly spuds are indeed on.
This is the sort of bias BOBN is talking about. When we can't even admit or see when players outside of the scapegoat list are playing shit. Our midfield has failed to protect the back four or create chances for months now. Diaby and Ramsey aren't even guaranteed starters and we've played a huge chuck of games with Caz, Arteta and Wilshere but they get nowhere near as much criticism or scrutiny as Ramsey and Diaby.
Also, mods...how is it that BOBN's post are under such scrutiny for point scoring or whatever and there are frequent posters on here that are far worse.
You don't seem to be understanding this. Ramsey and Diaby can't pass a football. That seriously disadvantages us when they are on the pitch. That's why they get stick, because they are detrimental to our chances of success. Other players can have off days but that's not the same as being a fundamentally bad football player. And stop crying to the mods FFS. They were highlighting the "I told you so" posting habit. Not the same thing as pointing out how shit Diaby is.
It was explained earlier. The moderation here is light touch. That said BOBN has by no means been the only one to be moderated.
And like BOBN the moderation has not been as a result of his POV. No one has had to my knowledge, a post removed because of a POV of anything to do with Arsenal.
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Hope you guys keep it up.
I find some shit on here annoying because you get posters constantly on the wum or banging the same drum about the same players but I have to ignore it. Is it fair that you guys can delete what you personally find annoying when the rest have to just ignore what we don't like?
As said, Ramsey and Diaby don't play every single game and can't be held accountable for every shitty performance. The guys that never get mentioned have had more poor games than Diaby this season and that's a fact because Diaby has only made a handful of appearances this year. There needs to be true acknowledgment of where things are falling apart. I know there are terrible players in the squad but getting rid of the fringe players doesn't explain why key starters can't perform for 90 minutes.
My mistake. A post was removed.
It was a post later on in the thread personally attacking BOBN.
Some forums I frequent you can be suspended or banned for taking a thread off topic, or for questioning moderator decisions.
To complain that mods here are heavy handed is laughable.
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This pic has been circuling around on twitter with claims that it's our 2015 Adidas sponsored shirt.
Real or fake, no thanks.
Looks quite smart, but the badge looks a bit off.
Didn't say they have played every game but when you chuck a spanner into an engine there's a chance of fucking the engine up or at least impairing its performance. That's what Ramsey and Diaby do every time they play and that's why they attract a lot of shit. Doesn't mean other players aren't fucking up too - they are. But why throw junk in the engine in the first place? Diaby plays well once a season, plus he's not just unlucky with injuries, he's completely injury prone. Sticking with him is just dumb but I guess it's a way to avoid spending money to properly fill that role. Ramsey has been awful in 90% of the games he's played since his injury, unfortunate for him but why is Wenger persisting with a player who is shot? It costs us. We want to win don't we? So we'll need to get rid of these faulty parts.
The whole Walcott thing is down to the tosser's contract negotiations. He's always been average (not based on opinion but if you look at what he produces) so listening to him squeak about how much cash he wanted and where he wanted to play was laughable considering we needed somebody a lot better than him anyway if we wanted to push on. He alienated some of the fans, not just because he's a cock with a huge and unjustified opinion of his own abilities but because he's a walking opportunity cost. We could have signed a decent player for the wages wasted on Theo. In fact we should have sold Theo and given all that money to RvP. Who can possibly say that wouldn't have been the smart way to go?
Doesn't matter though because we have what we have. Doesn't mean people have to like it. Diaby, Ramsey and Walcott are a constant reminder of how average this club has become. Should everyone be silent about it? What about Santos? What a pile of shit. Should people have just ignored how badly he was killing us each time he played?
Walcott average cos of what he produces? :haha:
You are on the WUM for sure now.
Quite like that shirt, looks like the ones we had in the early 90s, emblem looks funny though,
How about Wenger's WUM face?