Random Arsenal Shit (When it's not worth starting a thread)

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Who gets injured or Suspended?......I'm not saying if we sold Sanchez we wouldn't replace him that would be stupid....i just think it would be easier to do so.

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If Ozil needs a star striker to shine, what happens when that star striker gets injured or suspended? That pretty much takes Ozil out of the game as well, no? It's why I stress he needs to add more to his bow. Have more of an impact on the game if we're without certain players.

Leicester City having Mahrez is a key example.

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Originally Posted by AFC Leveller

Yeah i think Durham makes some good points, Ozil is brilliant and his assist tally is no fluke but overall i don't think he is the type of player to take us to the next level (unless we buy a proper striker) where as Sanchez can score goals out of nothing (See West Brom game) and win us games on his own.

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But that's the whole point, isn't it? The striker. If Wenger had done his job then we wouldn't be talking about any of this. If he goes another transfer window without getting a proper striker in then it will have to go down as the worst act of negligence since Harry Redknapp did anything.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Sanchez has been scoring the goals recently and Ozil hasn't contributed an assist to one of his goals. Work it out it for yourself. Look at where the goals have come from and then talk to me.

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Right six goals scored in a period where the title was to all intents and purposes as good as over?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

If Ozil needs a star striker to shine, what happens when that star striker gets injured or suspended? That pretty much takes Ozil out of the game as well, no? It's why I stress he needs to add more to his bow. Have more of an impact on the game if we're without certain players.

Leicester City having Mahrez is a key example.

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No he doesn't need a star striker, he just needs someone better than Giroud or Wellbeck.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

If Ozil needs a star striker to shine, what happens when that star striker gets injured or suspended? That pretty much takes Ozil out of the game as well, no? It's why I stress he needs to add more to his bow. Have more of an impact on the game if we're without certain players.

Leicester City having Mahrez is a key example.

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I prefer to put my faith in someone who isn't just a one season wonder, lets see if Mahrez can score and create as consistently over the next few seasons whether he stays at Leicester or not.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Wait a minute? Special strikers like RVP, Aguero, Suarez, Lewandowski don’t depend on a lone player like Ozil to get goals. Suarez was a beast with Ajax, a beast with Liverpool and still a beast with Barca. I’m sure a player like Ozil would make it easier for them to get goals but they won’t stop being goal scorers if he weren’t there. I can’t say the same for Ozil. He’s not a player that can stand on his own.

Also, what happens when those special strikers are having an off game or gets injured/suspended? I’ll take a winger that can bag 20+ goals and 10+ assists a season all day. They can at least take the weight off the striker in certain games. Ozil can’t do that as we’ve been seeing throughout his Arsenal career.

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You are badly underestimating the importance of Ozil in terms of us retaining possession. Cazorla is a huge miss in that respect too. We actually don't have many players who can keep the play moving along in a meaningful manner, without losing the ball at the first sign of pressure. It's always very noticeable when Ozil doesn't play because we end up giving the ball away so much and our front men end up isolated and even more ineffective than usual.

There's the argument that Ozil doesn't make a difference on his own, doesn't move us on, doesn't score enough or whatever. All open for debate. But what's beyond debate is if we lost him then we'd rapidly need a replacement or else our ability to move the ball and retain it would fall off a cliff. Considering we got Ozil for £40mill I can't see where we'd be getting anyone of similar quality in that price range.

Keeping Ozil and Alexis is one of the vital steps that needs to be taken this summer, followed by serious commitment in the transfer market. If we can't achieve these things then forget about anything else. We'll need some serious players to carry that idiot of a manager, Ozil is one of those players.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Right six goals scored in a period where the title was to all intents and purposes as good as over?

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When was the title race over?

Since the New Year, Ozil has tallied up 2 goals and 3 assists in the league. I think we’ve scored 25 goals from there until now. So where have the assists come from? You tell me.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

When was the title race over?

Since the New Year, Ozil has tallied up 2 goals and 3 assists in the league. I think we’ve scored 25 goals from there until now. So where have the assists come from? You tell me.

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Since the new year we've won 6 out of sixteen and only scored 25 in that time. If he's still creating chances which he is, whose fault is it that they aren't being taken?.

But of course he should be scoring more because he has to single handedly wipe the teams arse when Giroud proves to be dog shit.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I prefer to put my faith in someone who isn't just a one season wonder, lets see if Mahrez can score and create as consistently over the next few seasons whether he stays at Leicester or not.

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:doh: Use some common sense. I'm talking about the importance of having another player on the pitch that can make an impact and take the weight off the shoulders of others. It goes back to what you said about Sanchez not being as important as Ozil.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You are badly underestimating the importance of Ozil in terms of us retaining possession. Cazorla is a huge miss in that respect too. We actually don't have many players who can keep the play moving along in a meaningful manner, without losing the ball at the first sign of pressure. It's always very noticeable when Ozil doesn't play because we end up giving the ball away so much and our front men end up isolated and even more ineffective than usual.

There's the argument that Ozil doesn't make a difference on his own, doesn't move us on, doesn't score enough or whatever. All open for debate. But what's beyond debate is if we lost him then we'd rapidly need a replacement or else our ability to move the ball and retain it would fall off a cliff. Considering we got Ozil for £40mill I can't see where we'd be getting anyone of similar quality in that price range.

Keeping Ozil and Alexis is one of the vital steps that needs to be taken this summer, followed by serious commitment in the transfer market. If we can't achieve these things then forget about anything else. We'll need some serious players to carry that idiot of a manager, Ozil is one of those players.

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Exactly off the top of my head look at the game against Olympaikos, Girouds first goal....a Ramsey assist but who does the ground work by finding Ramsey with an inch perfect pass after his back was to goal.