Wenger Slaughterhouse

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

He is not failing though, that is NQ's point. What you want is irrlevant ot Wenger your not his boss. So why should he care about you. His boss targets for him to finish 4th at least and he has achieved that.

You can't be a failure if you meet your targets. Winning things has nout to do with it. its not his target to meet end off.

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He's failing end of......on the football pitch he's a failure and that's all that matters.

You keep mentioning his employers but who give a f*ck? He's a manager and manager's usually manage for the love of the game...they don't sell out for a bit of momey....unless football doesn't matter and money does that is.

He's a failure.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Saying 4th place is a trophy and more important than actual trophies is pathetic

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then you have clearly missed the point he was making and just taking a sentance to beat him with. everyone knew the point he was making and he is right. so much we are even debating it on another thread in this forum, and seeing as you and zimm keep saying that he says trophy lesss important then fourth place, you take one look at that thread and see there are people who agree with him.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

He's failing end of......on the football pitch he's a failure and that's all that matters.

You keep mentioning his employers but who give a f*ck? He's a manager and manager's usually manage for the love of the game...they don't sell out for a bit of momey....unless football doesn't matter and money does that is.

He's a failure.

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in our eyes yes, in his employers eyes no. he is given targets, he meets them. fuck all we can do about it

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

No thats and idiot who wants to be sacked.

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Not really, it's a guy with guts who isn't just happy picking up his pay check.

Do you think Ferguson and Mourinho would just sit there and settle for 4th every season without challenging the board or moving on?

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

in our eyes yes, in his employers eyes no. he is given targets, he meets them. fuck all we can do about it

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In football's eyes he is and that's what really matters.....he's a guy with no integrity if all he cares about is money.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

In football's eyes he is and that's what really matters.....he's a guy with no integrity if all he cares about is money.

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in whose football eyes is he failing though? in ours? yes he isnt doing what we want, however what we want doesnt matter, its what his employers want that matters and he isnt failing them.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

He's failing end of......on the football pitch he's a failure and that's all that matters.

You keep mentioning his employers but who give a f*ck? He's a manager and manager's usually manage for the love of the game...they don't sell out for a bit of momey....unless football doesn't matter and money does that is.

He's a failure.

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You missed the point, He does what his employers want him to do they pay him not you, so why would he care what you want.

They set him target he meets them, therefore he meets his aim. Every managers aim is diffrent.

If he was a failure he be sacked end off don't matter if the board make money of him, if they did not like what he was doing he'd be off end off.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Financial miracles, perhaps...that's more due to UEFA to be honest who have created this ridiculous competition that pays big clubs big money for coming 4th in their league.

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Yep, it's called a business opportunity which our guys have hungrily exploited. Why do you think we never finish 5th? No money.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

in whose football eyes is he failing though? in ours? yes he isnt doing what we want, however what we want doesnt matter, its what his employers want that matters and he isnt failing them.

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Everyone who watches football, if he's doing it for the money then like I said he's a loser with no integrity and should be nowhere near this club.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

In football's eyes he is and that's what really matters.....he's a guy with no integrity if all he cares about is money.

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To you yes, to his bosses no.