What now for Walcott?

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25-09-2012, 01:56 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

i guess its called faith in the manager, rather than running off at the first sight of disagreement. that's what we want as fans isn't it?

he can tell the press what he wants of course but if he thinks that doesnt come back to the players then he is in cloud cuckooland.

Well i doubt AW is not that stupid, end of the day he is the manager anf he picks the team, Its down to the lad to prove he is good enough to play. Maybe he has and maybe he is being mugged off. If he leaves good luck to him, if he stays hope he proves me and others wrong, id be happy if he became a world class striker.

There are lots of players, who are played out of posistion who don't moan, there are players who don't even get games he should be lucky he is.
25-09-2012, 01:57 PM
Kano

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Originally Posted by Syn

There is absolutely nothing in this for Wenger. You guys are over thinking it. We're only 5 games in - theo will play. Just because Wenger isn't starting him right now doesn't mean he thinks theo is useless or he is blackmailing theo to sign a contract. For the league, Wenger picks the team that he feels is his best. He will be starting a fair bit soon anyway.

i think in the longterm he is being mugged off. not just now but for the past few years. i'm not sure it was ever in his plan to move him really. which is fair enough but he should really stop banging on about it.
25-09-2012, 01:57 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Ach

Yeah well Theo cant wait around forever and hes manned up now

:wave: then.
25-09-2012, 01:57 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10

I think I'm a little more cynical than you letters - and the reason is simple. It was walcott and his people that delayed contract talks initially because he wanted to see if we got CL footie...remember now he's 22, not as if he's running out of time is it? Then a very good deal was offered and rejected over reported 75k - 100k difference...and now it's not about that at all...it;s always been because he wants to play upfront. Now if Van Persie was still here and playing up front, do you think Walcott would ever dare to say anything like that? - think this young man getting a bit ahead of himself and listening to the wrong people. He wants to go. It's obvious. If Man U come in with an offer for example he'd be off quicker than you could say boo, regardless if we were playing him upfront. Van Persie sent out a strong signal with his statement and impressionable players like walcott fell for it, hook, line and sinker. He wont sign even if he plays every game from now until Jan up front....which of course he now wont because he's basically challenged Wenger's power...so then he'll know he'll have the perfect 'alibi' to leave with his 'conscience' clear. It's very transparent for me.

Where did you get that info from about his people delaying contract talks because I've heard differently. I was watching Sunday Supplement and one of the journalists was talking about our contract situation and said it was that were taking ages to initiate talks with his people. And if I remember correctly, during his last contract talks, it was a similar story and Theo made a comment to the press about us taking him for granted an assuming he'll sign any deal.

Also, I think your taking it a bit far with this outrage. Theo hasn't issued an ultimatum through the press. If anything, he's spoken to Wenger already and this is the short term agreement they have. He'll get his chance as striker. Wenger has already come out and said it wasn't about the money, he made another statement saying he was concerned about the reception he received during his last game and now Theo has made this statement clearing up the money issue. It looks like damage control and PR from the club so fans won't assume the worst and stop certain blogs from stoking the flames. Booing a player over this issue is silly especially when we have half of the information. This is probably why Wenger and now the player are trying to address the issue.
25-09-2012, 01:59 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

The first statement, simply says one day he feels he could play as a striker...there's no set timeline for this though maybe Wenger is thinking when he's a bit older.

The second statement suggests to me that this is a last resort if we have no other options, it's clear that Wenger doesn't feel there's a need to play him there at this stage.

I'm not convinced Wenger will ever play him as a striker for any prolongued period, if he wants to leave because of that I think he should.

Spot on.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Yeah well Theo cant wait around forever and hes manned up now

For years, we have been moaning about our players being pussy ass bitches. Now one mans up and hes being critisised for it :rolleyes:

Your right he can't and if he feels he is being mugged on then he should go. If he thinks He wants to stay and be a legend fine, work hard and prove it.
25-09-2012, 01:59 PM
Kano

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

The first statement, simply says one day he feels he could play as a striker...there's no set timeline for this though maybe Wenger is thinking when he's a bit older.

The second statement suggests to me that this is a last resort if we have no other options, it's clear that Wenger doesn't feel there's a need to play him there at this stage.

I'm not convinced Wenger will ever play him as a striker for any prolongued period, if he wants to leave because of that I think he should.

again that's fair enough but to bring it up every season is just stupid. side step the issue or just shut up.

not surprising that the player is now asking for the move to actually happen.
25-09-2012, 02:00 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Letters

:wave: then.

I for one am glad someone is standing up to Wenger the right way instead of fucking off and running away ala RVP, Cesc etc

Theo wants to stay but on his terms and thats fine by me. Wenger needs to stfu and do what Theo wants or he needs to GTFO
25-09-2012, 02:01 PM
Syn

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

i think in the longterm he is being mugged off. not just now but for the past few years. i'm not sure it was ever in his plan to move him really. which is fair enough but he should really stop banging on about it.

Oh you mean position, I thought you meant keeping him on the bench. Yeah it's possible Arsene had promised him a role upfront sooner. Now I think he is going to play centrally but will compete with Gerv. If he impresses, I'm sure Wenger won't hold him back just to punish him for not signing a contract. That's not how Wenger works.
25-09-2012, 02:01 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

again that's fair enough but to bring it up every season is just stupid. side step the issue or just shut up.

not surprising that the player is now asking for the move to actually happen.

I don't disagree, but Wenger always comes up with answers for these things when maybe he should just not talk about them. I personally thinks it adds to the frustrations for players and fans alike.
25-09-2012, 02:04 PM
LDG

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Originally Posted by Syn

There is absolutely nothing in this for Wenger. You guys are over thinking it. We're only 5 games in - theo will play. Just because Wenger isn't starting him right now doesn't mean he thinks theo is useless or he is blackmailing theo to sign a contract. For the league, Wenger picks the team that he feels is his best. He will be starting a fair bit soon anyway.

Leaving him out of the side will show Theodore's cards (as is already being proven by the statement).

Now we just need the statement of intent on the pitch.

Walcott has always been a player who needs winding up. Get the pussy angry, and he'll gush.

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