They've swapped it with 'your face' instead :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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They've swapped it with 'your face' instead :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Tbf your face is a bit of a shit expression
I still do on the odd occasion tbh, tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
reading a few pages back, laudrup :lol:
half a good season with swansea and everyone's riding him. lets see how he does in his 2nd, 3rd even 4th year with them. we've seen this all before, a great start to the league or cup triumph then a monumental demise. his record since swansea won the carling cup:
WLLLDDL
and people want him here? :lol: based on what, half a good season with a team that was set up for him? :haha:
cant help but feel if he wasnt this suave character then people wouldnt be blowing him so much. if he looked like a gremlin from scotland people's perceptions would come down to reality.
That 'gremlin from Scotland' hasn't won anything though, so I don't really get the point. You go so far to deride Wenger at every opportunity, I don't really get why you're scoffing at other managers being suggested, you'd think anyone other than Wenger would be preferable to you.
i never made winning a trophy a prerequisite though. any manager clearly isnt acceptable, i wouldnt want someone like martinez here for example. i think moyes is the only 'tangent' solution i'd go for purely because of what he's done at everton, taken them from nowhere to somewhere. it would be similar to laudrup going to swansea years ago when nothing was set in place, languishing at the bottom of the league, then turning them into a consistent top 7 side all with no money. i think thats what makes moyes stand out. he clearly has something to be able to do that and if you give a manager two options: 1. win a trophy but go into a monumental demise 2. consistently finish in the top 7 in the premiership, they'd always take option 2, and so would their fans. what moyes has done has been far more impressive. as i said, lets see what laudrup does next season.
Obviously challenging in all competitions is the wish, of all fans but what is the necessary for the next manager then? Saying Moyes has taken Everton from nowhere to somewhere simplifies it slightly because it makes it sound like there have been no poor years, when he has had a few (2003/2004 and 2005/2006) for instance).
It's churlish to say he had everything set up for him there though, it rather suggests we should only ever be looking at managers that have taken a struggling club and improved upon them significantly. The odd thing is that you're laughing at Laudrup for doing the one thing you're clearly praising Moyes for - continuity! Continuity is a big thing I concede and continuing what may or may not have been there before is not the easy thing to do at a club that you seem to suggest it is.
You could be just as churlish and say Everton have been everpresents in the Premier League (though they've come very close to relegation before) and so having them as top seven, when there are seven of those teams in the Premier League is not a particularly great achievement. Looking at the table coldly and blankly you say Laudrup has taken a mid table side and...has them in midtable but he's done that and won something, which is huge for a club that has only been in the league for two seasons.
Moyes has reached a glass ceiling that he can't break, maybe that's based on financial limitations but as we've seen at Arsenal, I think it's a close minded way of looking at it. He has had multiple opportunities to be successful in that tangible way but has failed, on numerous occasions.
Your two point choice isn't neccesarily true. I'd have thought it would be but there are plenty of Birmingham supporters that would not give up their win against us, even though they have massive financial problems and haven't been doing particularly well in the Championship. In any case, praising Moyes for that is no different to Arsenal supporters beng ok with the continuity and safety Wenger gives us - someone you have patently made clear before you want rid of.
Moyes doesn't appeal at all. He's a better version of the infinite percentage managers recycled in the league. Drab football and not especially imaginative. Another one of those oop norf get amongst them they don't like it up em shitbags as well. Fuck him.
You have to look at what Laudrup does over a longer period of time than this. Right now he could be bracketed with several young managers and it's not like all of them will be successful at top clubs. He's been at a few clubs and even at Swansea there was doubt over whether he'd sign for a second season.
I have my doubts over Laudrup because I think he is probably too relaxed on physical condition, so I'd imagine we'd tire at the end of games rather than be the more likely ones to score. Of course, it could mean we don't see soporific peformances in the first half but there's no guarantee.
Can't deny the charisma and respect Laudrup would probably command though. He was an unbelievable player.
I don't want any manger from this league to replace wenger.
None of them are good enough IMO bar siralex an that is obviously a no go.
We need to be looking abroad for wengers replacement.