Winter Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Bendy isn't a badly behaved player at Arsenal. In fact, Wenger has gotten the best out of problem players like Ade, Anelka and RVP. They had bad reps before joining us. Jose not being able to get the best out of him doesn't prove anything because he doesn't have a rep for taming wild players. He handles problematic players in a different way to Wenger and usually turfs them to the side and out of his team because he's a disciplinarian with an ego. Wasn't there a player revolt at Madrid?

Arsenal might be the right sort of environment for him and Wenger could be good for him. Wenger has never once had a player on his hands that out right dislikes him and disrespects him in public. Balotelli may learn a lot from him.

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Arsenal was the making of the Behemoth that is Adebayor, so he wasn't such a big problem till he was sold and was just chuffed to be sharing a field with a legend like Henry.

RvP had a quick temper and a high opinion of himself as most Dutch players of his ilk do. However, coming to a big club and spending several years watching his teams games from a tv screen in a medics bed gave him time to subdue his temper as it would any player.

Anelka was as quiet as a mouse and hardly spoke a word of English. He wasn't any actual trouble at all apart from the fact he soon wanted out.

I don't think Wenger has had anything like the character of Balotelli to deal with in all his years. It was one of my main concerns about his pursuit of Suarez. Wenger can play Good cop and Silent cop.You might argue Bould or Aker's can play Bad cop but Balotteli barely knew who Wilshere was when he came here.....I doubt he has any deference or care for Bould.

I suspect that Wenger would be fantastic for Balotelli's career but he would not be as so for Arsenal's.

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Originally Posted by BOBN

"Hey darling, I sucked off the postman earlier, but I still love you"

If you cant identify the key facts in that statement, I dont know what to tell you

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

Arsenal was the making of the Behemoth that is Adebayor, so he wasn't such a big problem till he was sold and was just chuffed to be sharing a field with a legend like Henry.

RvP had a quick temper and a high opinion of himself as most Dutch players of his ilk do. However, coming to a big club and spending several years watching his teams games from a tv screen in a medics bed gave him time to subdue his temper as it would any player.

Anelka was as quiet as a mouse and hardly spoke a word of English. He wasn't any actual trouble at all apart from the fact he soon wanted out.

I don't think Wenger has had anything like the character of Balotelli to deal with in all his years. It was one of my main concerns about his pursuit of Suarez. Wenger can play Good cop and Silent cop.You might argue Bould or Aker's can play Bad cop but Balotteli barely knew who Wilshere was when he came here.....I doubt he has any deference or care for Bould.

I suspect that Wenger would be fantastic for Balotelli's career but he would not be as so for Arsenal's.

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Why would Anelka need to speak English when Wenger spoke French and most of his team mates spoke French?

We'll agree to disagree but you have no idea what sort of players RVP, Ade, Anelka would have been if they were at other clubs. It's unfair to say we created the beast that is Ade. We could have tamed that side of his character when he left it was unleashed!

Balotelli may require a different sort of manager to coach him. Most players still respect Wenger regardless if they left badly and never have a bad word to say.

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

I don't think Wenger has had anything like the character of Balotelli to deal with in all his years. It was one of my main concerns about his pursuit of Suarez. Wenger can play Good cop and Silent cop.You might argue Bould or Aker's can play Bad cop but Balotteli barely knew who Wilshere was when he came here.....I doubt he has any deference or care for Bould.

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He probably wont know Bould, but youd need to be a real football connoisseur to know who Wilshere is unless you are subject to the English media.

No way on Balotelli.

Talented yes but an absolute liability. When you're battling in the trenches trying to dig out a result the last thing you want is him leading your line.

Mancini couldn't tame him and Mario's basically his adopted son.

No way.

I don't blame Giroud for not wanting a top striker to come in, if one did he'd never get his place back and he knows it.

He's not top quality, everyone knows that, even him. He's a backup striker playing as a 1st teamer, so it's logical he wouldn't be keen to see competition come in because he'd have doubts he could compete.

Ive seen Morata linked with us a few times the last few days

Cant see it happening tbh but would he be worth a punt?

With Bendy out for a few weeks, a new CF is a must IMO. :coffee:

Balotelli could certainly be a ticking time-bomb, waiting to blow up in our faces, but you never know how these things might work out? He's always played under strict disciplinarians so far in his career, so he might respond well to more of a father figure? Would be nice to get Thierry back at the club to give him notes too!

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Why would Anelka need to speak English when Wenger spoke French and most of his team mates spoke French?

We'll agree to disagree but you have no idea what sort of players RVP, Ade, Anelka would have been if they were at other clubs. It's unfair to say we created the beast that is Ade. We could have tamed that side of his character when he left it was unleashed!

Balotelli may require a different sort of manager to coach him. Most players still respect Wenger regardless if they left badly and never have a bad word to say.

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I didn't say Anelka needed to speak English, although clearly the manager and the rest of the French contingent aren't the only persons at a football club, it served him well to speak to. The point I was making was that Anelka was quiet, to himself and hardly any trouble at all.

I don't actually consider players who want to leave a football club as being trouble necessarily. Not on that basis alone and Balotelli was not trouble at City simply because he wanted out of the place.

I do have an idea how RvP, Ade and ANelka would have been at other clubs, even if it is still just an opinion, but it is not based on a mere whim. RvP would have had his injury problems where ever he was at. I think the breadth of his injuries allowed him time to mature and the sheer time that has passed.

I was intimating that Ade became a wally whilst with us, not because of us. His good fortune quickly went to his head (ability wise and money wise)....that is different from being an inherently troublesome player from the off which he wasn't at the time.

Anelka is no real trouble he is just a little dour, private and a journeyman and he probably would have been that way whether he started with us or anyone else.