Transfer News, Rumours and Bollocks Thread

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Originally Posted by Darth Vela

Well, that's true, most things tend to go both ways and I tend to think Flamini leaving set us back a fair bit as his game was well suited to us. They've been replaced with better players now though, which is the way of things so whilst I agree it's a repeating pattern I just tend to think that it's the natural way and if someone wants to find problems in it, they will.

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We finished on 68 points. That's after making huge changes to our CB partnership. Making wholesale changes every two or three seasons isn't healthy. It's not a natural pattern. When important players want to leave, clubs usually fight tooth and nail to keep them if they're vital to their plans. If they can't keep them, they're replaced with experience.

Three Man Utd players that won the treble have retired at Utd this season and will probably stay on in coaching roles. Chelsea still have their title winning combo of Lampard, Terry, Cech and Drogba even though Mourinho has left. There isn't a single Invincible left in our squad and we're down to the bare bones on players that featured in the Champions League final.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser

No thanks, Bojan is too lightweight to play a central role in a 4-3-3. And Thiago would want to go back to Barcelona after a few years with us. Give is Keita, Afellay etc instead.

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Dude, Bojan would be a solid wide striker. He doesnt have Walcotts' raw pace but his right foot is just as good as Messi's left. :coffee:

Krkic is shit.

Must not get.

No use offering us kids that aren't good enough and don't want to be here.

Well, the Premiership changes every season too, we've seen a lot more teams getting more competitive last few years so direct comparisons are rather limited imo.

As for wholesale changes, dumping Senderos/Silvestre/Gallas when only one of them was able to put in decent performances for the first team and he was by most accounts a bit of a canker in terms of team spirit and bringing in two more guys (one of whom is actually quite good despite all claims to the contrary) is a good move and doesn't comprise of weakening the team (although we were a little more dodgy when we had the new guys holding together our defence, should have bit the bullet and got Jagielka or whoever imo but we ran out of time, bad negotiating I guess, weirdly that was when we were doing alright though). You'd think a complete capitulation at the end of the season when all of our stars were present would be enough to illustrate that change is once again necessary.

As for teams fighting to keep their players, we have done and other teams haven't at various times so I don't see how that's exclusive to Arsenal/Arsene.

Last paragraph I agree completely with and I think we'll keep all but one of our wantaway stars (i.e. one of Cesc or Nasri, although given Nasri didn't stand up when it counted it's debatable as to how useful he is) so all this hullabaloo about selling to the Mancs and our team falling apart is unnecessary. Incidentally on the point of us not having any of the Invincibles, we've been through rather a large uprooting and system of change since then so I think it's a bit of a rare situation.

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Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!

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http://www.marca.com/2011/06/10/futb...307683781.html

I think Cesc maybe going :shrug:

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I'm always unsure about players being makeweights. I very much doubt Bojan or Thiago would have any interest in coming here if this report has any truth to it, which I doubt anyway.

That's the last thing we need, players being forced here.

We should buy one of those goalscoring machines pundits sometimes talk about.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I'm always unsure about players being makeweights. I very much doubt Bojan or Thiago would have any interest in coming here if this report has any truth to it, which I doubt anyway.

That's the last thing we need, players being forced here.

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Especially ones who will most likely be too lightweight for the PREM.

Good point on twitter...
@wengerball - When you are making stories, think a little b4 writing shit. Young & Nasri both 1yr left, Nasri younger & better yet Young=£16m Nasri=£8m


Also
@guardian_sport - Football: Roberto Martinez says thanks but no thanks to Aston Villa and will stay at Wigan. Story to follow ...

Ros, how does it feel to be rejected by Martinez? :lol:

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Originally Posted by Darth Vela

Well, the Premiership changes every season too, we've seen a lot more teams getting more competitive last few years so direct comparisons are rather limited imo.

As for wholesale changes, dumping Senderos/Silvestre/Gallas when only one of them was able to put in decent performances for the first team and he was by most accounts a bit of a canker in terms of team spirit and bringing in two more guys (one of whom is actually quite good despite all claims to the contrary) is a good move and doesn't comprise of weakening the team (although we were a little more dodgy when we had the new guys holding together our defence, should have bit the bullet and got Jagielka or whoever imo but we ran out of time, bad negotiating I guess, weirdly that was when we were doing alright though). You'd think a complete capitulation at the end of the season when all of our stars were present would be enough to illustrate that change is once again necessary.

As for teams fighting to keep their players, we have done and other teams haven't at various times so I don't see how that's exclusive to Arsenal/Arsene.

Last paragraph I agree completely with and I think we'll keep all but one of our wantaway stars (i.e. one of Cesc or Nasri, although given Nasri didn't stand up when it counted it's debatable as to how useful he is) so all this hullabaloo about selling to the Mancs and our team falling apart is unnecessary. Incidentally on the point of us not having any of the Invincibles, we've been through rather a large uprooting and system of change since then so I think it's a bit of a rare situation.

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Just because we have a disaster of a season with all our star players featuring, doesn't mean you throw the baby out with the bath water.

How many times have you heard Wenger say he wants to keep this group of players together? You're going right against his policy and arguing for something he doesn't even agree with.