Summer Transfer Shit and Everything Else

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

TBH I (and probably others) don't care what motivates your replies or reactions (I know I've made up my mind quite a while back and I suspect they have too) however I must admit I do find the thought of what lies behind them a bit intriguing and probably worthy of some sort of psychiatric evaluation/intervention ...but hey, I'm just a silly football fan, what the hell do I know :)

Anyway I got your simplistic argument the first time; you would not mind losing Partey mainly due to his age, as all the plausible alternatives you have identified (I took Caicedo and the RM guy out since IYO we can't afford them now) are not better than him. Pathetic IMO, but you have been consistent with the mouth service you pay to your love of ageism, I'll give you that.

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If you don’t care what motivates my replies, why muse on it to begin with (or are you going to have a sudden bout of dementia again when I reference other posts you’ve made)

But there’s no need for it to be complex. You’re a bit of a foolish person, and your only worth is in the entertainment you unwittingly give me, because you certainly have no value as someone worth debating seriously (and again I’m sure you’ll mistake that for invective, it’s not it’s just sadly the truth)

Anyway You’re a bit more petulant than normal here. And you’re right my argument is completely simplistic, as I’ve just said there’s no need to complicate things….let alone soil yourself. But you seem content to do both

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Originally Posted by mandela8

His loss of form perfectly demonstrates his importance to the team. Every single player lost form at some point and it wasn't an issue until Partey had his turn and the entire team literally fell apart, as did the season.

No Partey, no chance. That's the way it was and that's the way it is. He was the best player in the league for the first half of the season.

The mental gymnastics to get around potentially selling your best player is just bizarre to watch.

@mac67 does make one fair point about his endurance. Partey hasn't lasted a full season yet. But he has made it further each time. That is the only black mark against him though. His ability is unquestionable, unless you're a special kind of mongoloid.

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There is a simple argument I've made with a few friends of mine, its simple but most thing in life are anyway

We started last season with Saka , Martinelli, Jesus and Partey being at their best. Martinelli dropped off around Novemberish and Jesus got injured and never recovered form. Martinelli woke up again around late December/January. Trossard, Jorginho and Odegaard joined the party around the same time. However, Saka and Partey fell off the cliff and after that our chances never recovered

Yes, you could add Saliba's injury and Arteta's kamikaze love affair with Holding in the mix...but the drop in our attacking play and how easy it was to run at us through the midfield was pretty obvious.

IMO, at their best, Saka and Partey carry this team. I don't think theirs evidence the others at their best can do the same thing for a sustained period of time.

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

You really feel Rice is a better player than Partey?

Interesting.

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I said "seen as" an upgrade, I didn't say he necessarily is - my jury's out tbh though I think we overpaid for him significantly

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Originally Posted by Mac76

I said "seen as" an upgrade, I didn't say he necessarily is - my jury's out tbh though I think we overpaid for him significantly

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The jury is definitely out, and we absolutely overpaid for him significantly

Never a player I wanted, when we went for Caicedo in January I knew fuck all about him……so made an effort to watch him and what I saw was a player who in every way exemplifies what we need…seems to thrive on being pressed showing both the physicality and the technique to break through it….range of passing and ability on the ball are excellent. If Man United or Chelsea got him…they absolutely could finish above us (and I say that despite Chelsea being a horrendous mess).

The flip side to that is a lot of Brighton’s players that are sold don’t always tend to do as well. I don’t think Trossard has quite hit the same level he was at, at Brighton (especially not in terms of goal scoring). Maupay used to be an utter pain in the arse for Brighton, don’t see any of that at Everton. Ditto Cucurella at Chelsea.

To be honest never really paid much attention to Ben White at Brighton…so can’t really make the comparison.

But it could be that some of these players thrive on being big fish in small ponds

Then again, one could definitely say the same about Rice as never been impressed with him playing for England

��| @FabrizioRomano: “I’m told Saudi clubs will try to approach Thomas Partey again in the next few days. On the player side, the priority remains European football and he wants to continue in Europe.

“Let’s see if Saudi clubs will be able to change his mind. As previously reported, it will also be important to persuade Arsenal because they want an important fee to let Partey go.” [@caughtoffside] #afc


Chimes with what I thought, that Partey wasn’t going to go to Italy because they wouldn’t be able to afford what we are looking for.

I do wonder if structure of payment for Rice has made us less keen to sell Partey, because whatever we got for him would be less than what we’d have to pay for any replacement

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

There is a simple argument I've made with a few friends of mine, its simple but most thing in life are anyway

We started last season with Saka , Martinelli, Jesus and Partey being at their best. Martinelli dropped off around Novemberish and Jesus got injured and never recovered form. Martinelli woke up again around late December/January. Trossard, Jorginho and Odegaard joined the party around the same time. However, Saka and Partey fell off the cliff and after that our chances never recovered

Yes, you could add Saliba's injury and Arteta's kamikaze love affair with Holding in the mix...but the drop in our attacking play and how easy it was to run at us through the midfield was pretty obvious.

IMO, at their best, Saka and Partey carry this team. I don't think theirs evidence the others at their best can do the same thing for a sustained period of time.

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We were getting on so well until the Saka bit, man :lol:

it seems Spuds have unearthed yet another player with the perverse desire never to win anything... where do they find these people?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66156111

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Originally Posted by dostoy

I have just read that Arsenal are after Kyle Walker AND Julian Alvarez from City.

Don't want Walker and surely there is no chance of Alvarez.

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I’ve seen this now - The Julian Alvarez rumour

Why are we only interested in short arses up front…

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Originally Posted by Mac76

it seems Spuds have unearthed yet another player with the perverse desire never to win anything... where do they find these people?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66156111

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Maybe he's related.

Very quiet on here today, almost like the pointless arguments that I engage in and or perpetuate have worn thin