None are worth the effort tbh.
Printable View
None are worth the effort tbh.
Then why post the links? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Because it's easier than formatting quotes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Injury Time
Very little new in either of them, if there was I would post quotes, italize and embolden! :thumbsup:
Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/tran...#ixzz1RN6qRmyUQuote:
"We will not talk about signings until we have done the deal.... We respect the clubs that own the players that we would like to sign. We work along the lines of respect.”
http://failheap-challenge.com/images...s/facepalm.gif
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/201...l&type=article
Copy and pasting is so much harder with this new skin using my iPhone.
Quote:
Manchester United's £20m offer for Samir Nasri is rejected by Arsenal
• Arsenal tell United they will not sell for less than £25m
• Nasri due to return to training on Thursday
Manchester City, Chelsea and Inter may also make bids for Samir Nasri after hearing of United's £20m offer. Photograph: Kerim Okten/EPA
Daniel Taylor and Dominic Fifield
The Guardian, Thu 7 Jul 2011 00.28 BST
Arsenal have turned down Manchester United's opening offer for Samir Nasri and told the champions they will not sell the Frenchman unless they receive a bid of at least £25m. United must now decide whether they are willing to meet the asking price and put together an improved financial package after it emerged on Wednesday they had placed an offer of just under £20m two weeks ago.
The clubs had agreed at the time not to publicise the bid but it is now clear that United, having already spent £50m on Phil Jones, David de Gea and Ashley Young, have made the first decisive move towards bringing Nasri to Old Trafford and reinforcing their position as the major force in the summer transfer market so far.
At the same time, they are threatening to make it an even more traumatic summer for Arsène Wenger, who is already faced by the near-certainty of Cesc Fábregas's departure to Barcelona and now confronted by the distinct possibility of losing another of his key players. Nasri is due to return to Arsenal for pre-season training on Thursday and the expectation is that the 24-year-old, in the final year of his contract, will inform the club he wants to leave. Arsenal are willing to award him a vastly improved salary but they will still find it difficult to compete with the money on offer from Old Trafford.
The news of United's bid may trigger counter-offers from Manchester City, Internazionale and Chelsea, who have monitored Nasri's potential availability and are weighing up whether to turn their interest into something more concrete.
City distanced themselves from reports last week they had made a £20m bid, saying there had been no talks between themselves and Arsenal and that, at that stage, none were planned. They are, however, reconsidering their options after the failed move for Alexis Sánchez of Udinese. Should they decide to compete against United, City would also be confident they have the financial power to offer Nasri the best deal. The difficulty for Arsenal is that Nasri will be available as a free transfer in a year's time and, unless he signs a new contract, his value will start to depreciate sharply. Wenger, therefore, must decide whether it would be better for the club to cash in on the player and put the money towards rebuilding.
that would make good business in my eyes. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
still would need CB(s)
would Maxwell+cash be enough?
to be honest he is and he isnt unknown, to us he is cos we have seen nothing of him but to French football and to a lesser extent the international game he isn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
but given that he had kicked a ball in a competitive league (debatable) indicates that he wont need to be sent out on loan like the usual under 12 signings Wenger pulls out in the summer
the same, I know could be said about Kos and Squacl but AW was looking for cover and obviously made a mistake, IMO Kos did OK the other was a disaster
with Gervinho, Wenger has gone after someone who he belives is an upgrade, 'major signing' ummmmmmm?
but could have the makings of a cult hero, specially with the spam
Fucking what? I'm the most positive person on the forum, FFS! Happiness shines out of my anus, I'll have you know. Which bit did you think was negative?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Barcelona are "sticking to their guns" by demanding we pay £7mill for two kids we just picked up for 700K. How does that work then? Does it work for anyone? Why don't we just offer Real £5mill for Ronaldo and say they owe us an extra £75mill from the Anelka deal? Then we can stick to our guns until they accept.
:lol:Does the mail seriously think we'll spend £48m on 2 players?Quote:
Tottenham are to press ahead in their efforts to beat Arsenal to Spain Under-21 star Juan Mata, with Valencia willing to sell the winger for £21m. Full story: Daily MailManager Arsene Wenger will launch a £27million move for Real Madrid striker Karim Benzema in an attempt to offset the likely loss of Arsenal stars Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri.Full story: Daily Mail
:pray:on those two.......I hope so!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
:getcoat:
Benzema
Gervinho
Mata
Cahill
Ugly Theo
Vinegar :bow:
But Dennis Bendnter will still be here :(.
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
They make up stories about who we're in for on an almost daily basis.
Does the Mail really expect Spurs to spend £21 million when news reports have stated that 'Arry has to sell before he can buy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Maureen proving he still has a bag of 2 pences worth to give........Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Maureen future Arsenal manager?
wonder what he would do with the current structure at the club?
I appreciate your efforts :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Graham Hunter just said on SSN that it is fact Arsenal and another Premier League club (Liverpool I guess) are talking to Mata and he fully expects Mata to leave Valencia. 25m Euros buyout clause apparently.
Nasri replacement?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
I hope not, hoping it's more like a Rosicky replacement. Or Arshavin. Although Arshavin's productivity even in a 'shit' season is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I see Manyoo are after the moose man :upset:
Oh and John O shea and Wes brown are signing for Sunderland today and Charlie "pele" Adam for the scouse
He's not an unknown. I'm not sure he's a major signing either but I've only seen the press report him as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Are you now contriving to blame Arsenal or Wenger for newspaper headlines?
You'll be blaming the club for hacking Milly Dowler's phone next. Sheesh!
How is that blaming Wenger exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
I was commenting on their headline that it was a major signing, it's definitely not. He's an untested player from the French league basically, not an established proven player, we're signing a player with potential not the finished article.
Is that the signings we should be going for? If we bring in established players as well then why not, if however we sign other players just like him and don't sign proven players I'm not so sure. Think we need players who are the real deal and will hit the ground running at this stage, not players who will take a season to settle in.
Letters you really need to calm down mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Hardly anyone had herd of Gerbil before our interest and IMHO the guy is a gamble and not a major signing in any way shape or form
i would agree he is not a "major" signing but he is not exactly some teenager picked up to potentially blossom in 3-4 years. he is a full international and is ready to play now not just in the mickey mouse cup. we wont get major etoo style signings so for us this is probably major. he will step straight into the team. how much more established and ready to people want?
Tbf, Gervinho is neither an unknown nor is he a major signing. But we never sign big names (bar Bergkamp and maybe Campbell but that was over ten years ago). He fits the more recent kind of signing, like Vermaelen, Eduardo, Sagna etc in that he's early twenties in age and has proven himself in a smaller European league (and also for his country and maybe even in the CL), ready to step up to our level. But because of the type of player he is (18 goals and 10 assists in all comps last season), we definitely need him, because it seems he would bring a much-needed variety to our attacking game. It's a start, but there are obvious places where we need to rebuild, as has been the case for years now.
Gervinho is a project but he should be willing to play after he settles in. The problem is that it may take him 2-3 months to settle in and then he's missing for two months in winter for the ACoN, so we probably won't see the best of him this season.
That said, I think he was a good buy and offers us something different, I'm happy that we've signed a pacy attacker to go with our more continental ones.
The problem with Wenger is that he always replaces, rarely strengthens in terms of transfers. So far we're one in, one out (don't count Jenkinson as anything more than a youth player) so we're still even with the potential departures of Cesc/Nasri.
He's played for Lille for a couple years and before that for Le Mans for a couple years, he's basically spent a few years in the French league, in my book that's not really an established player.Quote:
Originally Posted by I_Killed_Kenny
He's like all those other players from the French league we tend to buy relatively untested, it will take him time to adapt and he's been playing at a lower level all his career.
How much more major, we'll I'd personally prefer players who have either played in England or Spain, maybe even Italy as these tend to be harder leagues.
He's a player with potential basically.
D'ya know what.
I reckon we'll get Benzema.
I have no substance to my statement. I just got a feeling.
I also need a wee though. So it could be that.
So? He's not an unknown or some French kid who may come good in 5 years. What was the point in commenting on it unless it was to have another moan. We can't control what the press write.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
I looked up his stats, they're not spectacular but he just won the French league and seems decent enough. I'd be disappointed if he's the only player we sign but it seems like a decent enough signing.
There's no guarantee a big name player would hit the ground running btw, Torres at Chelsea? It's more likely I guess but even Bergkamp took a while to get going and Henry was a little hit and miss in his first season.
I think we should be looking at the Bundesliga more. Similar style, but probably a little less physical and more technical. It'd be easier for players to adapt from there to the EPL. Someone like Bayer Leverkusen's Arturo Vidal, who only has a year left on his deal, would be perfect to beef up our midfield and provide competition to Song and Jack.
realistically speaking - we wont sign anyone of a high standard from the likes of AC or real say. I very much doubt mata or benzema will come to us - will eat my hat if i am wrong. i just cant see it so if we sign 6 gervinho style "established" players i would prefer that then 1 mata type player and a host of kids
I think we could use some more established players now, we're always buying potential, trouble with that is it takes time for them to bed in (look at Nasri for example).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser
He's never played in the CL I don't think and whilst he's an interesting signing, I can't see him making much of an impact next season as it will take him a while to settle. That's the problem, we're always building and never the finished article.
I said he wasn't a major signing :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fats
He's not an unknown either though, and I couldn't see the point of Zim's post. Why comment on a newspaper headline?
We know it takes players from smaller leagues time to settle in generally, if we signed more proven players the waiting time isn't as long. Both Bergkampo and Henry took abotu 7-10 matches to settle in, Bergkamp scored in his 7th match and never looked back Henry scored quite a few in his first season 20+ I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
I reckon we won't see anythign like his best before the 2012-13 season as it will take him some time to get use to the different style of football.
Neither had Sagna and he fitted in perfectly, defensively at least. Trouble is, he'd cost far more if he played in the CL. And you know we're tight/fiscally prudent (delete as appropriate) with money...
So did you know about him before we were linked with him then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
I can't say I did except from PES.
Hazard is better known, as is Gourcuff etc but Gervinho I'd say isn't.
yeah he was one who did (though he was awful the following season), but on the whole they do take time to settle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser
Yes we are frugal, but if we lose Cesc and Nasri frankly we need quality replacemements not projects. I'd say that after last season we needed more established players though who know how to deal with pressure situations
The media just say 'major signing' as a stock phrase way of differing from us say, signing a youth team player.
I don't follow European football. I don't really follow English football these days tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
So no but that's irrelevant. I haven't heard of lots of players who are known in the game.
I'd never heard of a lot of players Wenger's bought who turned out to be brilliant signings. I've agreed with you he isn't a major signing but I couldn't see the point of your post when it was commenting on a newspaper headline which we have no control over.
From what I've read about him he seems decent enough, not a major signing but not an unknown either.
Gourcuff is better known for being shit.
Hazard is exactly the type of player I don't want any more. RIP tippy tappy midfielders.