Hit 'n' hope tbh.
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Hit 'n' hope tbh.
Federer FC 1-1 Porto, Danilo pel.
Schalke 0-2 Marketing, FT.
Tie over tbf.
Basel 1-1 Porto, FT.
A bit of a faux pas from Monsieur Victim:
Meanwhile, anyone know what happened to the PSG fans who kicked off with mouthy chavs in the city centre? Last I heard le coppers went in with tear gas.Quote:
'These people, these English fans, must be found, punished and locked up. They can't be allowed to get away with it.'
This from the guy who shot the footage. Not hard to figure out who the main culprits are in this incident and I don't mean the idiots on the train who you can easily find at ANY football match across this country and every other country that plays the game.Quote:
I was on my way home from work. I went down on to the platform and the Métro train was pulling in to the platform.
It was very crowded, the train stopped and it was clear there was some trouble, some people shouting, and it was clear these were English people. There was some chanting: “Chelsea, Chelsea.” I didn’t actually know there was a match on.
There were a couple of guys thrown off by the Chelsea supporters. The supporters were insulting them, telling them to fuck off. They were picked on because they were Paris Saint-Germain supporters, wearing scarves. At one point one of the guys threatened to stab a PSG supporter.
They were also throwing small coins at people on the platform. The train had been stopped for two or three minutes; it seemed like the doors had been obstructed.
In one carriage it was mainly Chelsea supporters who were being very loud, and some people were walking off. The doors where they were standing were the only ones open. I got out my phone and started to discreetly film. I have worked as a journalist and was pretty appalled by what I saw.
Then the incident you see in the video happened.
English Racism: Arrests in the Premier League 2013-14
Col 1: Total Arrests by Club - Col 2: Arrests for racist related incidents.
Sunderland 62 - 2
Stoke City 47 - 2
Aston Villa 36 - 2
Arsenal 67 - 1
Newcastle United 50 - 1
Swansea City 9 - 1
Manchester United 112 - 0
Manchester City 71 - 0
Liverpool 58 - 0
Chelsea 56 - 0
Everton 47 - 0
Tottenham Hotspur 42 - 0
West Ham United 37 - 0
West Bromwich Albion 31 - 0
Fulham 24 - 0
Hull City 21 - 0
Crystal Palace 19 - 0
Cardiff City 16 - 0
Southampton 14 - 0
Norwich City 4 - 0
We're in some pretty nasty company there and because we've had ONE incident (which is all it takes), we're officially a racist club. Though not as racist as Sunderland, Stoke and Villa who are twice as racist.
In terms of the Champions League 2013-2014
Football-related arrests (as defined in domestic legislation) relating to supporters of English and Welsh clubs in connection with Champions League, Super Cup
and Europa League matches outside of England and Wales: Total 18 arrests (zero for racist related incidents)
Arsenal 1 arrest, 5 matches
Chelsea 1 arrest, 7 matches
Manchester City 5 arrests, 4 matches
Manchester United 8 arrests, 5 matches
Hmmm, Manchester hooligans! Let me scan the paper and find the reports.
To address Ashton's issues (non-mental ones at least):
Across all of English and Welsh football, racist or indecent chanting:
2012-2013 - 42 arrests.
2013-2014 - 21 arrests. Literally half, although the trend has been roughly 30-40 per year since 2000. So Ashton is little bit completely incorrect. Racism is not spiralling out of control and we are not back to the 80s. Nice try though.
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ason201314.pdf
If I had to make a judgement I'd say the chavs aren't the biggest problem, the mancs are - topping the chavs in violent disorder, missile throwing, fireworks chucking, public disorder.
As for Arsenal, we excel at public disorder generally related to alcohol. In other words, we can't hold our drink. This is because the average is pushed way up every time Letters attends a match.
Weird.
Nah, Chelsea are definitely the biggest problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn