Winter Transfer Despair and Bafflement.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

IMO, Gazidis is probably the only one at the top of the club who has some sort of vision for us to move on from this Wenger-induced coma.

Though whether Wenker will allow the changes in infrastructure to efficiently work remains to be seen.

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For me it’s more he appears to be redeeming himself after being made to look like a complete and utter tit

Wenger is non confrontational. He was very slippery in getting his contract, going straight to Kroenke for it

From what I’ve read these two guys especially Mislintat are quite big personalities and are unafraid to ruffle feathers. Therefore i think it’s far more likely Wenger will begrudgingly accept changes and try to claim they were as much his idea.

Peter Wood of Le Grove thinks he might walk because of it, I just don’t see it. I don’t see anything now that will make Wenger voluntarily walk away.

Coq au Vin apparently going to Valencia I see

Didn’t have the required quality to play for us (but that doesn’t stop half the first teamers)

If so, I genuinely wish him well....could never fault the effort he put in.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Welbeck is an infuriating player in terms of his finishing but playing wide he’s one of the few attacking players that offers pace and threat. Sanchez as good as he can be often cuts inside, and whilst I would agree he wouldn’t get a look in at other clubs with more ambition....we are limited with options. And Jack is a central midfielder which we seem to collect.

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Since when? The guy has no end product. He doesn't have a final ball, his pace isn't blistering...it's just his work rate that singles him out but he's just as ineffective as the rest of them.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Coq au Vin apparently going to Valencia I see

Didn’t have the required quality to play for us (but that doesn’t stop half the first teamers)

If so, I genuinely wish him well....could never fault the effort he put in.

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Good luck to him.

Did a job for us when he initially came back into the first team but all his limitations were laid bare when Cazorla got injured. For a while though they actually worked well as a CM pairing.

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

Since when? The guy has no end product. He doesn't have a final ball, his pace isn't blistering...it's just his work rate that singles him out but he's just as ineffective as the rest of them.

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One of the few players that actually will keep it wide and actually try and get in behind the defence

The other being kolasinac but I’m talking about primarily attacking players most of whom want to play the ball through the middle of the park.

I’d rather we invested in genuine wide players, but frankly at this moment in time at least I’d rather have Welbeck there than Iwobi or Walcott.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Good luck to him.

Did a job for us when he initially came back into the first team but all his limitations were laid bare when Cazorla got injured. For a while though they actually worked well as a CM pairing.

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Agreed...although even that partnership effective as it was couldn’t deal well with sides that press us on the ball

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Yes I know, and I meant it at the time. However back in April I also said he represented the best chance we had for change simply because he’d been the only one who had come out to acknowledge that things weren’t right....but as I said at the time Gazidis has a habit of saying whatever best suits him at the time. I think his goal was rather than get rid of Wenger to impose controls on him and he failed totally in doing so, and staying on seemed to show more than he was more interested in his wage than having a shred of self respect

Bringing in the chief scout from Borussia Dortmund and the guy from Barcelona appears on the surface to be good moves. This tallies with insider knowledge that they are part of a strategy to chizzle away at Wengers power base. And if that proves to be the case (and it’s likely we won’t know for sure until the summer) than I have to say as I did in the previous message fair play to him.

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:lol: You reluctantly made that statement about him being our best chance for change after I'd argued that point over several pages and posts! That wasn't your overarching message. You scoffed at the idea of anyone suggesting he maybe our 'saviour' and kept playing it down.

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

:lol: You reluctantly made that statement about him being our best chance for change after I'd argued that point over several pages and posts! That wasn't your overarching message. You scoffed at the idea of anyone suggesting he maybe our 'saviour' and kept playing it down.

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My argument was he was our best hope and that’s why I was incredibly pessimistic

I did scoff at the idea of him as a savour for sure, it was like eating a shit sandwich as a means of avoiding death by starvation.

You seem to be trying to claim I’m back tracking on what I said about Gazidis, not at all i was incredibly scathing of him and still don’t think that highly of him now.

But there’s plenty of people I don’t think that highly of, but if they say or do what I consider the right thing I will credit them for it

The difference is you have Always had a regard for him in the same way Peter Wood has, Ive always found him slimy and ingratiating and actually think in the long term we could well do with someone far more proactive.

But I do agree that if it transpires that he has got power away from Wenger than ok that’s good. I just think a better CEO would have done it before now, but that’s an unfalsfiable claim I admit because we don’t get historical do overs.

Last year we gave coquelin a £100k a week bumper long term contract :lol:

The management of this club is a shambles :lol: