Carl Jenkinson

I don't remember Gary Neville being anything more than utter filth, but he did what it says on the tin when it comes to being a defender. Jenko can replicate that, and he's quicker too. We played for 15-odd years with a left back who had one foot FFS.

Arsenal fans are such fucking snobs. Everyone has to play like Robert Pires before he's classed as half decent.

Anyone remember Sagna getting arse-raped by that Moses dude last season? And he can't cross a ball to save his life. But he's still one of the best fullbacks in the league.

There are about 4 super super dooper quality fullbacks in the world who can attack and defend at the same time. Our boys do a pretty good job of it, and will get better.

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Originally Posted by LDG

I don't remember Gary Neville being anything more than utter filth, but he did what it says on the tin when it comes to being a defender. Jenko can replicate that, and he's quicker too. We played for 15-odd years with a left back who had one foot FFS.

Arsenal fans are such fucking snobs. Everyone has to play like Robert Pires before he's classed as half decent.

Anyone remember Sagna getting arse-raped by that Moses dude last season? And he can't cross a ball to save his life. But he's still one of the best fullbacks in the league.

There are about 4 super super dooper quality fullbacks in the world who can attack and defend at the same time. Our boys do a pretty good job of it, and will get better.

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Spot on LDG

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Originally Posted by LDG

Arsenal fans are such fucking snobs. Everyone has to play like Robert Pires before he's classed as half decent.

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Yeah it's getting ridiculous these days. It has gone completely reverse to what it was a few years ago. I don't understand this self-loathing guilt that we seem to carry 'round. You can't make a comment like "[token squaddy] had a good game" without having to qualify it with a "but we'll find out more after the next 73 games".

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Originally Posted by Syn

Yeah it's getting ridiculous these days. It has gone completely reverse to what it was a few years ago. I don't understand this self-loathing guilt that we seem to carry 'round. You can't make a comment like "[token squaddy] had a good game" without having to qualify it with a "but we'll find out more after the next 73 games".

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The worst one is at games when we're five nil up, and someone misplaces a pass. The collective *sigh* of around 40,000 people is truly atonishing.

Oh for a fullback who can actually cross as well as defend. Why is it that all our full backs can't master the art of the cross.

I suggest sticking a target in the penalty area and let them keep crossing until they start to become accurate.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Oh for a fullback who can actually cross as well as defend. Why is it that all our ful backs can't master the art of the cross.

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Because we never practice it. It hasn't been part of our game for a while.

Jenko's a great crosser of the ball though. He's got that nice way of taking the ball early for the cross.

Problem is, nobody is ever in the box :lol:

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Originally Posted by LDG

Because we never practice it. It hasn't been part of our game for a while.

Jenko's a great crosser of the ball though. He's got that nice way of taking the ball early for the cross.

Problem is, nobody is ever in the box :lol:

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It's a shame really because whippping crosses cause havoc.

Haven't seen too much of him, but he's got to be an improvement on the other guys which can only be good :lol:

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Originally Posted by LDG

I don't remember Gary Neville being anything more than utter filth, but he did what it says on the tin when it comes to being a defender. Jenko can replicate that, and he's quicker too. We played for 15-odd years with a left back who had one foot FFS.

Arsenal fans are such fucking snobs. Everyone has to play like Robert Pires before he's classed as half decent.

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well you cant blame fans can you? i mean we were sold a vision when we moved to the emirates with a bunch of youngsters but it turned out to be the opposite. we've had players like denilson, djourou, bendtner and eboue filling our ranks and they continually left us disappointed. its created an air of scepticism which means for once, fans aren't jumping on a bandwaggon when certain players churn out a few half-decent performances. we're more cautious in our approach and won't be entrenched into forming potentially misguided views. i remember denilson after the carling cup final defeat to chelsea a few years back, fans hailed him as the son of god. tbf he comes from the same country as gilberto so he probably was. or djourou after his excellent season in 2010-2011, people hailed him as the future kingpin of our defence. we know what happened next. you blame fans for having a go at players if they aren't up to standard but the flip argument can be said for you- its fans like you that continually set up this trap for disappointment. jenkinson has improved - thats not even in question - but riding his dick after a few performances is a bit over the top. especially when he's still making silly mistakes aka suicide passes.

i dont see why we have to constantly put a tag on players such as 'hes going to be better than sagna' or 'x is going to be better than clichy'. why dont we just sit back and see how it goes. everyone to their own and that, after all, it wouldnt be fun if we all agreed would it?

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Originally Posted by LDG

Arsenal fans are such fucking snobs. Everyone has to play like Robert Pires before he's classed as half decent.

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Tbf after 7 years of shit and waiting to see young players turn class which never happened, fans have lost patience and cba waiting to see more young players coming good in a few years. We want to see them come good now

Fair enough on Jenks. After being utter shite last season, he has improved considerably this season but the horrors of last season can not be forgotten after just 4 games

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

well you cant blame fans can you? i mean we were sold a vision when we moved to the emirates with a bunch of youngsters but it turned out to be the opposite. we've had players like denilson, djourou, bendtner and eboue filling our ranks and they continually left us disappointed. its created an air of scepticism which means for once, fans aren't jumping on a bandwaggon when certain players churn out a few half-decent performances. we're more cautious in our approach and won't be entrenched into forming potentially misguided views. i remember denilson after the carling cup final defeat to chelsea a few years back, fans hailed him as the son of god. tbf he comes from the same country as gilberto so he probably was. or djourou after his excellent season in 2010-2011, people hailed him as the future kingpin of our defence. we know what happened next. you blame fans for having a go at players if they aren't up to standard but the flip argument can be said for you- its fans like you that continually set up this trap for disappointment. jenkinson has improved - thats not even in question - but riding his dick after a few performances is a bit over the top. especially when he's still making silly mistakes aka suicide passes.

i dont see why we have to constantly put a tag on players such as 'hes going to be better than sagna' or 'x is going to be better than clichy'. why dont we just sit back and see how it goes. everyone to their own and that, after all, it wouldnt be fun if we all agreed would it?

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I haven't said anything about what he's going to be. If you read my posts about him so far...I'm saying he's done a good job and has played well. Surely giving a 20 yr old a pat on the back is slightly better than saying he's shit?

All I was doing was highlighting how so many people are getting ****y, because everyone seems to expect some poncy foriegn puff with rainbows coming out of his arse, when in fact, all you need (aka Gary Neville) is a gritty little bastard who doesn't mind digging in. It was not about the player per say.