Match Reaction vs Mongs

MO in full-on sly WUM mode.

His wrists are next :rose:.

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Originally Posted by IBK

Finding our true level TBH. Progress? 4th is 4th - no matter what's come before. Webger can do 1/2 a season. But his failure to invest in his team is there for all to see.

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Its the inevitability that is so depressing...

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Originally Posted by Letters

We do have a horrible run coming up but the last 5 games are all winnable. We'll probably pub team it into 4th :patrice:
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I am not being otherwise, but a small part of me hopes that we don't get fourth. I am sick and tired of watching Wengers tactics and scraping fourth and pretending it is a trophy. When he finally spends big, he wastes it on Ozil! I am seriously in a bad mood over another gutless performance. We need some fresh management ideas.

Top 4 and the FA cup would be a perfect season.

Although this was our best chance at the league.

Moyes will either go or spend £££ massively in the summer.
Chelsea will probably get Diego Costa/Higuain.
City will be City.
Liverpool will spend that CL money.

:rose:

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Originally Posted by Chippy

I am not being otherwise, but a small part of me hopes that we don't get fourth. I am sick and tired of watching Wengers tactics and scraping fourth and pretending it is a trophy. When he finally spends big, he wastes it on Ozil! I am seriously in a bad mood over another gutless performance. We need some fresh management ideas.

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Problem is that Wenger knows how to finish fourth. Its his speciality. In fact if you are cynical - he is the expert at doing the absolute bare minimum to maintain interest in our club.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

Top 4 and the FA cup would be a perfect season.

Although this was our best chance at the league.

Moyes will either go or spend £££ massively in the summer.
Chelsea will probably get Diego Costa/Higuain.
City will be City.
Liverpool will spend that CL money.

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It would be a perfect season given our aspirations these days. But we all know the FA Cup is a long shot - given our history in big games. Our nickname should be the paper tigers!

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Originally Posted by Özim

That's a fundamental problem with our style of play to be honest, we've been doing it all season, opportunities of counters have been wasted as we more often than not insist on checking back and passing sideways allowing the opposition to get back.

I think the problem is the players have this short pass pass football ingrained into their minds by Wenger and counter attacking just doesn't fit into that, that leaves us looking for intricate passing moves like we managed last week against Sunderland which only really ever come off occasionally.

Oxo doesn't seem to have been infected by this pass pass madness yet, but a couple more years and he'll probably end up doing the same.

What a total waste.

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To be honest, Zim (and while I don't want to make this à whole "door cause analysis"- this is only à reactionary post to à single match) I believe our play changed with the introduction of Fabregas. Couple to that Mourinho, Allardyce and Pulis pushing back football by 20 years, and it all contributed to Arsenal's trophyless drought.

Fabregas was always dragging counter attacks back. Wenger thinks it's the right way forward (Hence the way Cazorla plays). He's wrong.

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Originally Posted by Ernesto

To be honest, Zim (and while I don't want to make this à whole "door cause analysis"- this is only à reactionary post to à single match) I believe our play changed with the introduction of Fabregas. Couple to that Mourinho, Allardyce and Pulis pushing back football by 20 years, and it all contributed to Arsenal's trophyless drought.

Fabregas was always dragging counter attacks back. Wenger thinks it's the right way forward (Hence the way Cazorla plays). He's wrong.

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Aye - we haven't counter attacked effectively for years.

think we should have just gone an extra £10-15m on top of the ozil money for suarez instead. he would be firing us to the title this season.

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Originally Posted by Ernesto

To be honest, Zim (and while I don't want to make this à whole "door cause analysis"- this is only à reactionary post to à single match) I believe our play changed with the introduction of Fabregas. Couple to that Mourinho, Allardyce and Pulis pushing back football by 20 years, and it all contributed to Arsenal's trophyless drought.

Fabregas was always dragging counter attacks back. Wenger thinks it's the right way forward (Hence the way Cazorla plays). He's wrong.

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Our inability to counter attack is down to team selection and it's not philosophical. We have a very organic style and We very leaves a lot of the decision making down to the players. That's why he's never barking orders from the touch line. Overall, we like quick passing football an; I can't imagine Wenger saying anything to discourage that.