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After listening to an old scratchy record play a couple of times. Most people can easily predict where its going to skip and jump. every one that is except the owner of the record, who insists that THIS time it will play flawlessly. All he has done however is put a little spit and burnished it with his elbow.
I love the CL but usually enjoy it only about the QF stage, when we are no longer in it.
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Originally Posted by PGFC
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Oxlade-Chamberlain is 22 and isnt getting better. He is the exact same player he was when he arrived. He doesnt defend and his mess ups lead to goals for the opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
He isnt good enough for Arsenal. Its not inconsistency when you see the same thing over and over. He isnt a good enough dribbler, passer, finisher, makes bad decisions, and isnt tactically up to it in attack and defense. What does Oxlade-Chamberlain do that is outstanding? At least Theo is fast and can finish.
If we didnt try for Sterling because we have Oxlade-Chamberlain, then we have err'd massively.
Ah pipe down. Just the other week you were saying Theo wasn't good enough. Coquelin wasn't good enough and we need a clone of Arteta. :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
Ox is young and his faults are down to the manager.
We didn't go for Sterling because City were in for him and Wenger doesn't get involved with bidding wars. He'd never the pay the sort of money City paid.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I said Theo wasnt good enough to be a central striker. Still not convinced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I said we can do better than Coquelin and Im still not convinced. (he is getting better, and I am happy for that)
Oxlade-Chamberlain's faults are down to him not being good enough for Arsenal and Wenger giving him freedom to mess up on top of that. Oxlade-Chamberlain isnt good enough for Arsenal and we have seen this consistently.
It was rumored Sterling wanted to go back to London. Who knows what would have happened if we made the same bid for him, tbf. I think we had a chance, if the rumors were true.
Tell him to get behind the players and stop wishing for some miracle striker to drop down from heaven. Pay up and shut up! But thank you for taking an interest in our affairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Like those Benzema rumours? Or the Draxler rumours a season ago? We weren't in for Sterling and Ox wasn't the man holding him back. Ox isn't even a first team regular.Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
I mean, shit...what's with the short memory Arsenal fans? He needs to work on his defence but he's scored a couple of important goals for us already. Let him live.
the ones that said we were interested in him? What is your short term memory like if you are now dismissing that? (notice I am not commenting on the "benzema is arriving on Sunday" rumors, just that we were really interested in him)Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
yeah, you never answered my question. What does he do outstanding? What trait does he have that shows he can be a player at a high level?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Are you really paying attention to media speculation regarding Sterling? Seriously? And if any of it were true, you really believe Wenger didn't sign him because of Ox? A player that isn't a first team option?Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
Is Ox outstanding at anything? No. But you know what? He's 22. He's still developing and hasn't played much first team football because of injury. What 22 year old do we have in this squad that's outstanding at anything?
I'm not in this camp yet but I see where you are coming from. Ox is as responsible for his game as his manager, just like Theo and Ramsey. Players need guidance but they also have to take responsibility and learn wherever they can. It's injury record doesn't help him and as it stands if he left, I wouldn't lose sleep over it because under the current manager, he is only ever going to improve so much. Whether he'll gain those much needed improvements to his game elsewhere I don't know but it's too early to make a final call on him - at least he's making it onto the pitch more than Wilshere.Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84