Arsenal vs Crystal Palace 23.04.2025 - KO 20:00 GMT

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

FT and they can all go and fuck themselves for that disgrace. We're winning nothing this season, not a prayer. When you can go out at your own place with that sort of attitude while dreaming about Euro cup wins, it's just that, a dream - not an ounce of reality present. Disgusted with that - even after the Madrid matches - still this shit that has plagued the club for decades. What will it actually take - how many thousands a week - to get these players to give a shit?

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Exactly didn’t see Liverpool in 2005 or Chelsea in 2021 perform like that in the league when they had virtually nothing to play for.

Except that’s exactly what did happen. Don’t get me wrong it’s frustrating, but until we go down the pathway of replacing players brains with artificial neural nets, it happens. The thing is, on top of that I think Palace from the moment they went 1-0 down were better than us….really they are the ones that should be kicking themselves for not winning a game they should have based on play.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

I'm not sure if you'e disagreeing with me or not.

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I agree with your frustration but I don’t think the players chose to throw away momentum. Palace were better than us tonight, in terms of strength, aggression and yes desire. We were very very lucky to draw.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Pure fucking arrogance and disrespect to the fans. Liverpool about to win a title because we can't be bothered to turn up. Doing the bare minimum to get us to the big money games, total disrespect for a game they are all still getting paid fortunes for, out of the fans' pockets.

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I'm listening to commentary by Andy Townsend and he described our performance as bizarre, not sure there is a better word.

We led the game twice, at home, and throughout the whole game it was clear as day that Palace were creating quality chance after chance and all we wanted to was bore everyone to sleep.

When the season is properly analysed, it will be clear that it this arrogance Arteta has of consistently underestimating mid table teams that killed any chance of us winning the league....as most of our games in the league aren't going to be against the Citehs and Liverpools...... honestly the stupidity of walking straight into a wall game after game is so fucking infuriating.

Anyway, whats done is done.

Like I said on another thread, I'm glad the first leg against PSG is at home as I expect that to be tougher leg seeing the kind of performance the team has gotten use to delivering in front of their paying fans. This result will only make them jittery and more nervous.

I just hope, whatever we get, we'll have a strong team able to salvage something in the 2nd leg.

Would love to know how many points we’ve dropped from winning positions because I can’t quite remember a season like this in terms of draws.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

FT 2-2

Sick of this league campaign. Was at peace with it when 2nd looked to be secured but now we will have to scrap for that

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Why do you care about that?
Obviously I’d rather we finished 2nd than didn’t, but the 2nd Place Trophy doesn’t exist any more than the Top 4 one does.

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

I agree with your frustration but I don’t think the players chose to throw away momentum. Palace were better than us tonight, in terms of strength, aggression and yes desire. We were very very lucky to draw.

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You do that by how you treat the game and apply yourself. I remember you not finding it acceptable in any way on us drawing to Everton.

I'm the same here with Palace being the much better side when really we're in no different a situation to them in relative terms.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Why do you care about that?
Obviously I’d rather we finished 2nd than didn’t, but the 2nd Place Trophy doesn’t exist any more than the Top 4 one does.

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I disagree, finishing third or worse will feel like and really is, a massive regression in the league.

Absolutely want us to finish 2nd.

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

I'm listening to commentary by Andy Townsend and he described our performance as bizarre, not sure there is a better word.

We led the game twice, at home, and throughout the whole game it was clear as day that Palace were creating quality chance after chance and all we wanted to was bore everyone to sleep.

When the season is properly analysed, it will be clear that it this arrogance Arteta has of consistently underestimating mid table teams that killed any chance of us winning the league....as most of our games in the league aren't going to be against the Citehs and Liverpools...... honestly the stupidity of walking straight into a wall game after game is so fucking infuriating.

Anyway, whats done is done.

Like I said on another thread, I'm glad the first leg against PSG is at home as I expect that to be tougher leg seeing the kind of performance the team has gotten use to delivering in front of their paying fans. This result will only make them jittery and more nervous.

I just hope, whatever we get, we'll have a strong team able to salvage something in the 2nd leg.

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Honestly, have we got to April with people still thinking that we simply choose not to play better against mid table teams who allow us to dominate possession.

No we haven’t, I’m pretty sure you acknowledged yourself that we’d rather play Barcelona than Inter in the final because of how it would suit us better.

Don’t get me wrong I think we need not just strikers but better attacking midfielders to combat this, but it’s not a mindset issue. It’s a we don’t have the attacking players to break teams down unless they give us space issue

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Originally Posted by Letters

Why do you care about that?
Obviously I’d rather we finished 2nd than didn’t, but the 2nd Place Trophy doesn’t exist any more than the Top 4 one does.

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I know 2nd-5th doesn’t matter at this stage but fact there is now jeopardy with the position we’ve held all season is something I find embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

I disagree, finishing third or worse will feel like and really is, a massive regression in the league.

Absolutely want us to finish 2nd.

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Agreed. It already is a huge regression in terms of wins and points gained compared to last year but to let 2nd slip now would be quite shit. Everton, Brentford, Palace, they all had fuck all to play for like us but we still threw all those points away. It stinks.