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Simple they pay his wages we don't any Manager would be the same, do you think Fergie Agreed with the Glazers, why did he not come out and support the Green and yellow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Im not saying Aw is right to Front for the boared, because he is not, but he will never say bad word against his team or board while he is employed by them.
When he leaves or if we may here a bit more. Why is it he gets praise from every player that leaves but the boared gets evils.
It really is bizarre, but from what I've read about his last days at Monaco, it all ended in the same way. Total defiance and the fans just couldn't understand it. He wouldn't budge on his transfer policy and the axe finally fell when they had a real shocker of a season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I like your posts when you talk about Arsenal and their deficiencies football wise.. In fact, I think you are the best poster in GW when talking football but what you are saying now makes no sense. We dont know how Stan works.. how can you say that Kroenke is behind this? Stan took over Arsenal midway through last season but Arsene has been a fucking tool for the last 3-4 seasons. Remember Ade, Toure and Hleb season.. why wasnt the money reinvested? Stan wasnt the majority owner then... I dont know how all of a sudden you have become AW sympathetic. If AW is such a victim, why doesnt he resign? Why stay on and tarnish his reputation? He is an intelligent man who should surely know that with this squad he will win fuck all... so why give into the boards demands? Its not like he will be broke and on the streets if he doesnt have a job... forget that, he will have a beeline of clubs around him if he resigns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I'd respect him more if he resigns and tells us why he did it... but he wont coz all this conspiracy theory that an American 4000 miles away is fucking the club up makes for wishful thinking... thats not how it is.. AW is deluded and his stubbornness and arrogance will take this club down with him
Im very pissed off and saddened at the moment, so I cant vote on the poll. I will wait until the transfer window is closed and then vote.
He has 10 days to sort the team out and get in the players we need.
If he doesnt, then he can fuck off.
You don't have to say something silly to upset the board. But you don't have to insult the fans either. Just look how the Chelsea managers have handled tough spots with the fans, players and that sneaky Russian. Did any of them say they should be grateful because they're rich and have won trophies in the last few years. No. You just don't need to go there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
One more point. Remember when Arsene sat through that shareholders grilling and told them they should be happy because the club is making a profit? Remember that year?
That summer, he started to flirt a little with Real Madrid, after the pressure was put on him by the fans. Why play that card then? Why at that moment? If the board had been screwing him over for the years on end, he could have left when Dein left.
Agree & he should take his geriatric coaches with himQuote:
Originally Posted by Boss
'Pat' I can't do anything till I get a message from the Stand (Boro)
'Boro' I got 2 mobile phones, now what do I do
What other manager at that age (Kenny,Hodgson, Arry etc) has coaches/assistants that age these days?
PnG, a corporation always puts out a unified message no matter what shit is going on behind the scenes. That's just the done thing in the business world. There's a lot of money at stake here, the people who have access to that money and have a legal entitlement to help themselves to a cut are never going to view things the same way as fans. Most business people I've dealt with would sell their mother for additional profit. There are very, very few honourable business people. This isn't because they are bad individuals (though many of them are that too) it's because the culture of business demands profit first, above all else including common sense in many cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
The corporation is also about shifting the cost of doing business externally whilst maintaining the profits internally. People at the top view this as normal and the smart thing to do. They take their responsibilities very seriously, in a brainwashed kind of way. It's hard to explain, I've sat in many boardrooms (never as an owner I might add, but as a skivvy) and listened to many tools go on about this that or the other and it has always struck me how detached from reality these fuckers are but yet how much power they have over that reality. And most of them are fucking clueless, these days hardly anyone works their way up through a business. They parachute in at the top floor complete with a nudge, nudge, reputation passed on by another tie down the road.
Different world but the short story is you are never going to see Wenger come out and call our board a bunch of cunts, not until all bridges have been burned an open hostilities are in progress. But it's pretty amazing what has been happening nonetheless. I pointed to the statements about no players leaving and now he's telling us the Nasri deal is nowhere near done. Either everyone in the board is on the same page as Wenger and suddenly everyone at the club is deluded, or there's my "conspiracy theory" of a split. Let's face it, if I'm wrong then we're in even bigger trouble than we all think.
Look at this Kroneke bloke. Comes in, quietly buys up the club with and as soon as he's secure and in charge things start to look like they are falling apart. Things weren't great before that but at least we could go into a game against Liverpool with some expectation of a favourable result. It's time for this absent owner to show his face and tell us what is going on I think. And I believe Wenger has already tried to tell us in the only way possible. Sure, it;s just guesswork on my part but the popular arguments calls for Wenger to be so stubborn, so deluded, so averse to spending money that he'd destroy the club he's tried to build over 15 years. That doesn't make sense to me and doubly so because the argument also calls for Kroenke and the board to just sit there and watch it happening. Something else is going on I think and it's probably not the best time for the fans to be heaping the pressure on Wenger in case we're fighting the one person who might be standing up for what we want as fans. I'm not saying that's certainly the case, but it would be wise to try and get the whole picture before taking a hatchet to it.
The next 10 days will tell us a lot.
The board is a problem but so is Wenger. The board does not determine the style of play, the board does not identify Tweety bird and Squid as capable defenders. Wenger makes a big public pride on being left to manage all football affairs at Arsenal. In fact when Kroenke first took over that was the first statement out of his mouth, that he would be in charge of all football matters regardless. Our team cannot defend for thier lives, we have a feeble attack and only this year has the goalkeeper situation ben resolved when Almunia has been pants for 4 years. Wenger is the problem, the main problem and maybe the only problem. All that Gash about wanting to buy Subotic et al is just a smokecreen. Wenger has NEVER bought a TOP quality defender in all his years here, except Campbell who was a special case. In all deference to Vermaelen and Kos, they are good enough but no one across europe was breaking down doors to get them. Wenger is more noted for the dross like tweety bird and the muppets who played when we were thrashed 6-1 at OT. I have had to have therapy to have their names erased from my memeory, so please no one remind me.
Yes, true. Fabs said he owes Wenger and without him, he wouldn't be playing for Barca. Wenger said we sold Cesc on the cheap because it was an issue of the heart and he was torn between two clubs. That doesn't soun like a man that was forced by the board to sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Last point, back to this boss/employee analogy. If Wenger is happy to pick up a pay check while sitting around incompetence and mediocrity, then what does that say about him? Isn't he just as bad as the players that are happy to pick up an Arsenal paycheck but go through the motions on the pitch when playing? Showing no passion or urge to shake things up and make something happen? We want rid of that type of player. Shouldn't it be the same for Wenger if he's keeping his mouth shut because he's afraid of losing his job?
I don't think that's consistent with his character but if you hold that view, then Wenger is part of the problem and should go.