You'd say he was a corpse if he kept doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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You'd say he was a corpse if he kept doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
A bit of both NQ! I think he thinks he's smarter than everyone else, "my way is right, everybody else is wrong and I will continue to do it my way"Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yes you would, and in managerial terms that's a good description. So let's wheel him in for another 3 years. Somebody grab his arm and give the fans a wave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
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Originally Posted by selassie
Is it just a coincidence he's fucked absolutely everything about this club, all the things we used to love, except one thing. That fucking 4th Place Trophy. We still have that. Lost the titles, lost even being able to compete for those. Lost the football. Lost the entertainment. Lost the ability to even pretend to compete in the CL. Lost the legendary defence, the world class strikers, the tough bastards in midfield. Lost it all. Except that bloody 4th place that brings them in the cash every year.
A coincidence?
Oh aye, gone past caring, I can't take us seriously as a football team until he's gone, I suspect that's what most rivals fans are saying now too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
http://www.espnfc.com/arsenal/story/...-to-shoot-less
Another evidence of what a clueless idiot our manager is. If anything, we need to shoot outside the box more often..
Won't take him long to ruin Elneny. We're already seeing signs of Iwobi complicated his play, in line with the Arsenal textbook. Wenger has just seen Leicester winning a title doing everything he tells his players not to do. Press, be direct, shoot... All that vulgar stuff that winning teams are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Reminds me of the references I made to Weekend at Bernies in regards to Peter Hill Woods appearance at the AGM. Used to say to a mate that he'd died years before Blue Chips Keswick succeeded him and that he was thawed out and became a human marionette puppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Maybe Wenger is being operated in the same fashion with an impersonator producing several stock phrases during press conference
I would say RIP Wenger, but if they are doing that with his corpse he clearly isn't.
Don't listen Elmo!Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
I think shooting outside the box is largely an exercise in wasteful shooting, don't get me wrong we carry it to ridiculous proportions with people not shooting even when they are in the box but the vast majority of goals scored in football are inside the box and it's about trying to work your way in behind the defence rather or pressing and attacking at pace rather than pissing about in their third and trying to thread an eye of the needle pass through the centre.
Do I think players should never shoot from distance?. No that would be ridiculous, football is still entertainment and fans love to see screamers and its worthwhile working on placement and power in training but it certainly has to be very much regarded a secondary route to goal.
Direct goals from long range shots may not always be the 'end goal'. A long range shot may result in a corner or a hand ball or a deflection from the keep into the path of the striker. It should be a secondary route, but that should change based on how a game is going. If we are finding it difficult to penetrate an opposition teams defense, start taking shots from distance.. have a plan B and may be even a plan C!Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
:doh: The answer to why we're so predictable and teams can just camp inside their own box.
NQ - we had this discussion before with Ozil and you might be right. Even though Wenger has challenged him to score more goals, how has he told Ozil to go about it?
Maybe this is advice just for Elmo but it's crazy considering the banger he scored against Barca. Let him develop that weapon.
We always prefer to pass rather than shoot!!!
Isn't referring to it as a secondary option the same as calling it a Plan B or C, I can't help but think we are quibbling over terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
I think it's about getting players to use the correct judgement rather than being obsessed over style of play, if a tangible pass is not on than shooting from distance is an option to consider rather than haphazardly trying a pass that leads to ceding posession at least with shooting the worst that will happen is that you concede a goal kick.
The most efficient route to scoring a goal is from inside the box, but yes I agree it's not the only route.
And Elnenys comments are very telling.
Would you say players are judging it well? We've hardly scored from outside the box this season and we've struggled against teams that defend deep and in numbers. We've heard Wenger bemoan teams that set themselves up to park the bus, more recently with that Geoff interview in fact, but it doesn't look like he wants to try anything new. The emphasis is still on patients and passing even though it hasn't worked in years against certain set ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I'm trawling through this because i'm marking time until my working day is done
No i don't think our players used their judgement well at all, either they have poor judgement or they are sticking to a rigidly implemented system
If players at Arsenal can't decide for themselves when to shoot and when to pass, they don't belong at the club.
I like Arsene wenger but his influence has waned and after two decades he is more problem than solution.
Mourinho, Ferguson at their peak would've done titles with the squads weve had. And our teams always bottle it when the pressure is really on the to move into contention. he is great at doing just enough to sneak into s champions league he will never win.
no we will never wi the league under wenger.
I still have my season ticket and didn't go to a single game this season.
Nayan is back from the dead.
hello
Yes. Cole's exit was a catalyst as was Wengers complacency... And just when we're closing in again...Fabregas led an exodus with himself, Nasri, vp, song,... if we can keep this group fit and together and add a world class forward and CB we have a chance for sure.
None of the above will happen though, it's unlikely we will keep a core of the squad fit (we haven't for around 10 years now). We most certainly won't add a world class forward and cb, it's just wishlist stuff to think otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
Exaclty right, I don't understand why people still can't see this and still hope for some pipedream which will never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
If he doesn't sign a class striker this window then next window will be all about Ozil, Alexis, Kos, Bellerin, Ramsey leaving. This is his last chance to act to prevent that.
Yeah, we’ve been singing the same song for a while now. It’s looking more than likely that we’ll lose Sanchez and Ozil if Wenger continues on like this. I think this will be their last seasons for us so this should be the season we’re going all out with signings to show intent.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Aye, I think he'll need to win one of the major ones this season to keep either of Ozil or Alexis here. I'm pretty much resigned to the fact one of them at the very least will go. I agree about the others too...especially Bellerin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn