Dire Straits :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I don't think so.
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Dire Straits :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I don't think so.
Criminal activity :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Niall Montana :bow:
Don’t be coy, we’ve all heard the recording of you slurring along to Sultans of SwingQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Dodgy geezers sitting outside my squat and fooling nobody with their fake moustaches might have heard that, on occasion, I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Herbert's posting regularly today:bow:
Back to slacking :bow:
You can’t return to something you never gave up onQuote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
Ozils asking for £330k a week from Barca apparently :coffee:
That'll be the signing-on bonus he would get in the summer rolled into his main demand. These are the prices that have to be paid - thanks to clubs like Barca.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
Wenger says ozil and Sanchez will be staying until end of season unless something "unbelievable happens" :coffee:
In other words if someone stumps up enough money they're gone :coffee:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...Griezmann.htmlQuote:
There is a long list of big name stars that Arsenal have bungled signing. Recently it was Kylian Mbappe and most famously it was Zlatan 'I don't do auditions' Ibrahimovic.
Add another name to the nearly men of north London: Antoine Griezmann. In the summer of 2013 Griezmann was coming off a season where he had broken into double figures for goals for the first time for Real Sociedad and clubs were taking note.
Specifically the then 22-year-old was attracting interest from Arsenal, with Griezmann's former agent Eric Olhats in touch with Gunners' scout Gilles Grimandi.
That same window saw Arsenal fail to land Luis Suarez with the infamous £40million and £1 bid and could only stand by as Gonzalo Higuain opted for Juventus over the Emirates.
Griezmann has revealed himself to be another potential Arsenal striker who saw his move to the Emirates collapse and as a result he has ruled out ever moving to the club.
He writes in his new autobiography of the mini-saga: 'I waited, I waited, and I kept waiting. When there was no news, Eric called Grimandi, who said that the manager was still interested in me [and] to keep waiting.
'Finally a few hours before the market closed, he let us know Arsenal would not make a move. I don't like to be told something and for it not to happen.
'So when Eric told me later that the London club were interested again I told him "Forget it, after the blow they gave us".'
Thankfully Arsenal signed Yaya Sanogo that summer.
Yaya Sanogo :haha: :haha:
This is really masochism now....
Well done Wenger again, I wonder where we'd be if we'd got rid of the guy years ago, probably challenging for the CL and PL by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Let it be known...Gazidis has nothing to do with transfers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
As said on the other thread, Wenger's so quick to poke his chest out when feeling attacked. Fans have been too quick to shield him from accountability. Let him take the hit for these sort of fuck ups.
Precisely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
By his own words, the stupid £40mill + £1 farce, the window where all we signed was a keeper, the gaping holes in the squad that were left unfilled for years and... Yaya Sanogo.
All Wenger.
There are landmines whichever way he tries to twist and turn. All laid lovingly by him. All leapt on, by him.
to be fair he was too busy at the time commentating for TF1, the transfer window shut too early for him.
Having to work through the back catalogue of moans I see until Wenger releases a new terrible album.
Which, to be fair, is generally not that far away.
Hopefully, for everyones' sake his new album is called
"I Quit"
With classics like:
"Spirit and Togetherness"
"2% Away"
"I didn't see it"
"I almost signed..."
"Everyone thinks they know better but I've got 20,000 subs"
"Super Super Quality"
'I Don't Need a Captain for my Ship"
"I'm Yacht Ready to Leave"
and most importantly
"Never Coming Back"
That's actually not bad, for you :lol:
Talk to Wenger if you don't like having to examine the contradictions between his latest bullshit and prior claims and actions. It is becoming increasingly clear, based on his own words, just how huge a problem he has been over the last few years. Hopefully the new blood being brought in can limit some of the damage, or even reverse it. Wenger has already moved to try and stamp his egomaniacal authority on these latest moves so if the fans want to see anything positive develop they'll need to keep the heat on the old fraud and ensure he can't worm his way back to business as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Too right, Wenger has botched window after window with his dithering and principled stance on player valuations. Im glad we are going to have a couple of new guys on board because Wenger needs to be challenged and pushed when it comes to player recruitment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Can't argue with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Mostly because it's pure unverifiable speculation.
:gp:Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
You're right, what we do know is we have top 4......or not...Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
And 0 trophies :sulk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Well. Apart from this year. And two years ago. And the year before that.
Awful manager :bow:
Average squad :bow:
:run:
:haha: :haha: :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Zim hits the half a million mark.
Zim 500,000 - 0 Letters
Letters :haha: :pal:
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Almost right, we have a few tin pot trophies no other big club values on their own, good enough for an average manager and squad though I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Wenger :bow:
Shall I dig out your reaction to us winning it again? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
How is the FA cup a tin pot trophy?
When it suits your agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
This loop again?
Again?
Letters never tires of it.
Summary so everyone can be spared.
Obvious statement #1: Football fans like it when their team wins a cup.
Letters trying to paint Wenger as successful on the back of fans being pleased at winning a cup is as disingenuous as it is comical. Which is a lot.
Obvious statement #2: Winning the FA Cup in no way, shape or form excuses Wenger's failure to compete for a title for over a decade and absolutely does not excuse his painfully laughable European record.
Wenger is painted as a top manager. Look at his record. He hasn't been a top manager for over a decade. The evidence is all there.
Obvious statement #3: Wenger has seriously underperformed given the resources at his disposal.
It's not the failure to win, it's the failure to even compete that's so shocking. Winning FA Cups does not excuse his failure.
End loop. Once and for all?
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...p?t=629&page=2
Poll: Do you still want Wenger as Arsenal manager?
Right in the middle of the "over a decade of failure".Quote:
"I voted yes. Because we are Arsenal fans and we are allowed to criticise the club, the manager, the players and anything we want related to Arsenal. Because we're part of it. But when some outside cunt starts taking the piss out of our club or manager they can fuck off and die really. I'd rather see us relegated than watch the media gorge themselves in this feeding frenzy they are trying to whip up with Wenger as the main course. And do you know how they are trying to excuse their behaviour? They're saying all they are doing is reflecting the feelings of the fans. So I won't be one of those fans and I don't think any other Arsenal fan should be either. We're under attack now, we don't disintegrate or run away, we stick together and stick two fingers up and them. Wenger, for all his current faults, has done too much for this club to deserve being ripped apart by the media and served up to them on a platter by the fans."
- Niall_Quinn, 21/08/2011
Revisionism. :bow:
And of course, NQ, you supported Wenger signing a new contract a mere 3 years ago after the first FA Cup win. So stop pretending it's all so black and white as you now make out.
NQ proving once again why he's the best poster on here and why he's regarded as the Pep of the forum, whilst Letters is the David Moyes of the forum :pal:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
But anyway stop criticising Wenger or you'll be reprimanded! How dare you speak of Letters' messiah like that! :sulk: any minute now he'll pop up and defend Wenger, oh wait he's already done it, and quoted a post from... 2011 :haha:
How long did it take you to dig up a post from 2011? NQ has over 50,000 posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Also, that's not a great example. NQ said he voted yes because he didn't want Wenger pushed out by the media but clearly states fans are allowed to criticise the manager.
But either way, people are allowed to change their mind. We were all in favour of Wenger having a job for life at Arsenal at one point.
Over 6 years ago :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
And in response to the media attacking the club and the manager. The media being one of the few institutions I loathe more than Wenger.
So what are you saying Letters? Because 6 years ago I didn't want to see Wenger ripped apart, now 6 years on and not within a mile of a challenge, having even dropped out of that cherished 4th place spot, Wenger gets a perpetual free pass? What if he robs your house? All is forgiven because 6 years ago I said I wouldn't support the media in their attacks on him?
It's so sad this all has to be explained to you, again. Such is your desperation to support the man, you have to resort to this. But you don't have the guts to openly come out and support him. Instead you try to find ways to pretend those who criticise him are somehow irrelevant, thereby making the criticism disappear in your mind, I suppose.
Then there's the FA Cup thing, again. And the contract before last, again. And despite the fact we've gone over this many times (you couldn't find any of those posts, I notice), and despite the fact the support was clearly qualified as based on him continuing to make the big name signings that seemed (at the time) to mark a shift in policy, and despite the fact he's instead fucked up the subsequent transfer windows in the most spectacular fashion and fucked up player contracts as badly as it is possible to fuck them up, here you are pretending all of that's forgivable because a guy on a forum said, years ago, it was worth giving him another shot to see if he could overturn a catalogue of failure?
Well he didn't. So yes, here we are stuck with his decade of fuck-ups. Keep apologising for him, it's what you do best. You don't watch the games, but you watch the forum to ensure nobody has criticised Wenger. Tragic really.
:haha: Totally ridiculous point he makes, to think that in 6 years you can't change your view is proposperous!Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yeah Letters, are people not allowed to change their view?
Well here's yours from 2012:
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...l=1#post122768Quote:
Yes, we've failed to win a trophy again but we look like we've got something to build on. I'd agree it's not the first time but I also think changing managers would set us back and destroy the momentum we've built up.
:haha: :haha:
Yes. I have changed my mind about Wenger
I hoped he would push us on when the money became available. He didn't.
What I haven't done is backdated my views 10+ years or started pretending I think Wenger is suddenly a dribbling imbecile.
It's all the hyperbolic nonsense I find tiresome.
:lol: Must be the new phenomena called backward momentum where you regress or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Vieira