You can have more than one team from each country in pot 1, they do at the moment......what's a joke is having a team clearly better than another team in a lower pot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
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You can have more than one team from each country in pot 1, they do at the moment......what's a joke is having a team clearly better than another team in a lower pot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I think the point is though the best teams should be in the pot for top seeds, it doesn't make sense to have a team who aren't as good as the other team seeded higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoshGooner
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Originally Posted by ItsMe
So what your saying is next season if Madrid finished 2nd they should be in pot 2. If City don't win the league this season then they should be in pot 2 or 3 is that what your saying.Quote:
I think the seeding system should work according to your position in the league i.e league winners in the major leagues are automatically in the pot of 1st seeds.
The system won't change because they want to keep the best teams apart. City might have won the league but in Europe they are poor, that is how it is worked out.
No Madrid can stay in pot 1 along with the league winners. I don't think there should be any 3rd/4th place teams in pot 1 though (unless they won it the season before).Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
You'd be better scrapping the whole thing and have a straight knockout competition tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
I don't think teams should be seeded at all tbh. It makes the group stages extremely predictable, and seems to be a protectionist measure to ensure the 'big' clubs get past the group stages.
Of course it is. The bigger clubs are of more interest and will generate more money. And that's what it's all about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
Football :rose:
Lucky we're still one of the big clubs. Just.
I agree, but its how the money is made, they have to keep the "Big Clubs" apart. More fans watch, more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
I totally agree, but that's not going to happen...at least if you do have a seeding system then make it logical though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
He's been dropped for the game tomorrow.
Surely the end for him?
Come home Reina
He needs real competition if he's going to improve, been in a comfort zone for way too long now.
Massive opportunity for Fabianski. Shop window and opportunity to claim the number one spot!
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Originally Posted by IBK
I still think De Gea is a bit shit even though he's managed a couple of flukes.
As you always say Ach, another shit player that Fergie has managed to extract some great perfomances out of.
Nah De Gea isn't one of them.
He's quality. The save at the end of the Chelsea match was as good as it gets, a save our ches wouldn't have made
He wasn't so great when a more conventional save was required on the Ramires goal though.
De Gea gets roughed up in the air too easily but has a nack of making some stunning saves. The save he made from Mata's freekick last year was the best I've seen in a long time.
He had no chance for that :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal
it was right in the corner and he was at full stretch. As Moe says, he's not the best on crosses but he's young and will get better.
Fact is, all of us would take him over our clown and anyone who says they won't is wumming
I wouldn't exactly call Ches a clown.
Funny you can see past De Gea's weaknesses and say he'll improve, but at the same time completely write off Chesney, who has clearly displayed that he's also got some quality but just needs some proper coaching along with some challenge to better him.
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Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal
Ches is an average at best shot stopper, not so good at crosses and his distribution is toilet.
A lost cause tbh
Reina would be great for us
Just how would he be great for us?
He's been dogshit for a number of seasons now, shows no signs of turning it around, and would probably get worse should he come here.
No thanks.
Experienced, best keeper in England since he joined, still only 31 I think.
Hasn't been that great for Liverpool but he needs a new challenge
:lol:
Always funny how you loosely throw jargons around to give pre-eminence to whatever argument you're positing.
"...best keeper in England...." :haha:
He has been
Really now?
How so?
Look at Liverpools defensive record. As shit as they have been, defensively they have been very good. I know it's the way here for a player to make a couple of mistakes to be considered shit for the whole time he's been here and that's fine but I'm a little older and wiser than that.
He's played behind shite like Skrtel, Carra etc and done well. His clean sheet record is also one of the best if not the best
*pops head in*
I don't think I'm needed in here.... Cripps has it covered.
*slinks out*
That's all fast becoming the distant past now, you know, similar to our managers situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
Fact is, he's been dogshit for a number of seasons now and frankly, an out of form keeper, who's shown no signs of making a 180 deg any time soon, is not what we need in our current state.
A talented, exciting and competent keeper a la Guzan would be perfect for us, imo.
theres a time and place to fucking drop players. smaller team in the league then great, but our biggest night of the season so far?
we put heart and soul into getting in the top 4 but throw the competition away when we're in it, whats the fucking use? like a dead end.
players injured on a 10 day break? nah. he's throwing the game because he wants to get 4th and realised theres a huge possibility we wont reach europe next year. well if you'd spent properly we wouldnt be in this position.
so fucking depressing. no silverware and throwing games in the one competition we are in. we wouldnt have won but to limp out and bend over for the opposition just reasserts how far we've fallen.
and anyone else notice how wenger said wilshere's out for 3 weeks then today said 3-4? its gonna be the season.
Wenget said Chesney has been mentally affected from playing so many games this season. :unsure:
Work shy thunder**** can fuck off, Christ this team is so fucking weak mentally* :banghead: :ilt:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
*assuming this is true
If he is mentally affected from playing a few games of footie then I must be mentally disabled from the amount of crap I have to put up with. . .its called work and we get paid to ,do it so get your fucking arse out on the pitch and earn your living. . .as I do as the fans that have to pay for the tickets that pay your salary do WTF
Well I would get stressed if I had that defence is front of me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
It's not stress. Wenger has just dropped him and it's a nice way of explaining his form. Mental issues/confidence...in other words he's playing shit so he's been dropped.
Yup. Plus the fact that Wenget's approach is fundamentally flawed - because Flappy will be destroyed by an annihilation tonight, while he's just shredded Szczesny's confidence for the ruin in (misspelling intended) by dropping him for our biggest game of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Bottom line is that even with Szczesny; Poldi and Wilshere we would be nowhere near strong enough to have a chance of overturning this deficit. The fact that their replacements inspire so little confidence (not just against Bayern but in terms of getting 4th place) tells you everything about the mediocrity that Wumger has made us.
Its almost astonishing how every game that comes along seems to bring us more depression as Arsenal fans!
Pretty astonishing really. Why leave it at such a pivotal moment to drop the keeper? You're right, it keeps on getting worse. Can't wait to see the team selection. Ramsey is bound to start and he could potentially leave Rosicky on the bench. :lol:
Aye - and what makes it even worse is that unconvincing as he is, Ramsey is rarely played even in his best DM position. This is a big part of the reason that I resent our manager more and more - he won't even play to the strengths of his mediocre players! Will someone tell me what purpose it serves playing players out of position - other than making Wumger look increasingly foolish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
He could easily play Ramsey further back with Arteta and Rosicky further upfield but he won't. Arteta isn't comfortable playing so deep and I have no idea why he's further ahead to chip in with assists and goals since we're lacking in that area.
Just as long as he doesn't play Ramsey on the wing!