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http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/100342.html
Meh no smpathy tbh should not have signed a new 4 year deal then.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
People are thick if the still believe that all is well, were a rich club and wenger has all the power.
From the times.
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"Samir Nasri has agreed to join Manchester City in a move that will more than double the French international’s weekly wage to £185,000. Arsenal have still to agree a fee but, conscious that 24-year-old Nasri has just a year left on his contract and could go for nothing in 12 months’ time, they are ready to sell for £22.2m.
Any deal will be made against the wishes of Arsène Wenger, underlining the manager’s reduced power at Arsenal since Stan Kroenke’s takeover. Though Wenger yesterday told Arsenal’s website that “we will do everything we can to keep him [Nasri]”, Kroenke authorised initial transfer talks once it became clear that Nasri intended to exploit his value as an imminent free agent.
The deal continues an Arsenal pattern of losing disgruntled players to City. Since the Abu Dhabi group’s 2008 takeover of City, Arsenal have sold Kolo Toure, Emmanuel Adebayor and Gael Clichy to the Premier League’s most affluent club. Clichy forced last week’s £7m sale by employing the same strategy as Nasri — running down the final year of his contract.
The purchase of Nasri will also emphasise City’s increased power after last week’s agreement of a 10-year “Partnership Deal” with Etihad Airways. Even though Nasri will earn more than double Arsenal’s best offer, the Frenchman still trails behind Carlos Tevez and Yaya Toure on the City pay scale. The deal follows the refusal of Udinese’s Alexis Sanchez to countenance a move to Eastlands. The Chile international prefers Barcelona, Chelsea or Manchester United."
If he can recover his form from 3 years ago, then this might be a pretty good deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Realist
If Arsenal can get £22.2 million for a player who has had just one good HALF season and has just 12 months of his contract left, then this is good business.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
The real measure of Wenger's influence and control is whether that £22.2 million is then used to buy a quality replacement rather than a bunch of new 16 year old trainees.
and that's true because you read it on the internet?Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Its part of a long running trend of results, events, reports and yes, speculation from those who are either capable of investigative journalism (most of tge broad sheets) or are close to the club. (ex board, shareholders, players)Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
But sure, continue to go all "lalala it's not happening" if you must.
in particular the bit about wenger losing power lending weight to your argument? i seeQuote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
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Originally Posted by AKBapologist
If true could be a good thing, though Can't see AW being happy with it and how long will it takes before he decided to walk out.Quote:
Any deal will be made against the wishes of Arsène Wenger, underlining the manager’s reduced power at Arsenal since Stan Kroenke’s takeover. Though Wenger yesterday told Arsenal’s website that “we will do everything we can to keep him [Nasri]”, Kroenke authorised initial transfer talks once it became clear that Nasri intended to exploit his value as an imminent free agent.
If he did walk out it wouldn't be a bad thing, but when he's earning 6 million a year don't count on him walking away too easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Wenger walking out would be the best thing that could happen to the club this summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
i agree
losing our most creative player, best winger and manager during the summer would do us wonders
Who's fault is it that those two want to leave?Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
oic.
Can anyone think of a player as good as Nasri that is available, would want to come to Arsenal and could be bought for £22.2mill? From a business perspective selling might make sense, from a football perspective it's suicidal. Selling one of our best players to our immediate rivals, a club that could well pinch our CL spot next year - and if that happened even the business argument would be flawed. Kroene is obviously just another useless cunt cluttering up the boardroom. Miserly billionaires could make more money in 101 different ways, why do they insist on fucking up football to grab their extra cash?Quote:
Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner
So what do you suggest is done then? Because by all indications nasri wants to leave, not for more money, but because he sees himself elsewhere. When a player puts off signing a new contract for so long and demands more than he knows can be afforded in salary it suggests disillusion. Even if you make them stay chances are they are gonna want to leave again -- soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Fifth signing of the summer:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...31338,00.html?Quote:
Arsenal are close to completing the signing of Swedish teenager Kristoffer Olsson, according to the midfielder's current club.
IFK Norrkopings starlet Olsson is now set to make a permanent move to England for an undisclosed fee.
"I can confirm that the transfer is close to being sealed. I won't comment on any sums, but of course we are happy with the deal," IFK Norrkopings sporting director Tony Martinsson told Fotbolldirekt.se.
"We are pleased, but of course we would have preferred to have seen Kristoffer stay in Norrkoping and evolve to a first-team player.
"He wanted to take this chance and we will not stand in the way."
I suggest we spend £50-£75million on top quality players to strengthen the squad, sell nobody and instruct the players the minimum expectation for next year is the PL. If we don't have £50-£75mill in the kitty (which is hard to believe considering we've spent fuck all over the last few years), I suggest that billionaire bloke Kroenke spends some of his money on the team rather than feathering the nests of greedy board members. Trouble is there doesn't seem to be anyone at Arsenal who makes decisions. At the very worst Nasri should be allowed to leave provided he informs us well in advance of the FOREIGN club he wishes to go to, because there's no way we should even contemplate selling him to our rivals. That would make us a school (and a bit of a bitch) to the likes of Man Utd and City. Is that what we're saving up to be?Quote:
Originally Posted by budesonide
Has anyone done the "who??????" thing for this guy yet? Looks like Wenger is building a team for the future. He's the ultimate tomorrow man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss
Nasri doesn't give a fuc*k about that though, does he? He wants out, so does Cesc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The damage is already done. Selling Nasri for 5mil to a foriegn club instead of 25mil to a rival club is stupid -- as is keeping him and getting nothing out of him for next season then losing him on the free.
Jesus fucking christ!Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss
I wonder how many millions we cant spare for the likes of Cahill, samba etc, we have wasted on this kid.
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Originally Posted by Boss
He is going to win us the CL
The £5m/£25m thing would only be stupid if we were to do anything with either of those amounts. It might even be profitable to us to lose £20m rather than sell this guy to either of the Manchesters.Quote:
Originally Posted by budesonide
Now that Wenger has achieved his goal with his current squad (4th place losers), he's gonna try and do the same with a team of 16 years olds, that's why he's signed so many this summer.
Thank f*ck he's spending all his time scouting and signing 16 year olds, could get embarrassing otherwise!
Which is why I don't quite give a fuc*k either --- and frankly, with or without Nasri, Man City,Man U and Chelsea are still major forces for us to reckon with.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
I just don't understand what is going on. Nasri would be fantastic playing the Cesc role. It's surely not the club messing him about. Wenger must know Cesc isn't staying and will need to replace him.
Even the tweet from Nasri, don't believe the papers, now reads negatively.
Bring in the Spanish fella, flog Cesc, sign up Nasri, spend on a defender, a defensive coach & a striker. Done.
If Spuds get Samba :doh:Wouldn't mind Mertesacker here. Excellent CBQuote:
Tottenham have moved ahead of Arsenal in the pursuit of Blackburn defender Chris Samba.Full story: the MirrorArsenal manager Arsene Wenger is considering making an official approach for Werder Bremen defender Per Mertesacker.Full story: footie-online.co.uk
This. :gp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
He hasn't proved it so far. In fact, he's been a bit shit playing there. Only versus Porto, when he scored the wonder goal, did he ever give a masterclass performance in that position. He doesn't have Fabregas, Wilshere or Ramsey's eye for a pass in that role. Even Song is better in that area. Nasri's best position is where Wenger has played him for most of his Arsenal career. He can utilise his dribbling, pace and shooting on the wing most effectively. His hogging of the ball for too long leads nowhere when he's playing centrally. It's a myth that Nasri can play successfully as a playmaker. At least so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
He was majestic for Marseille though :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Moves the ball around too slowly. Could play as a false 9 at best centrally.
Denilson would have looked majestic too :good:.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
No,Denilson is shite and will always be shite at any other club, space and time :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Yeah apart from the fact giant barges have been known to turn quicker than him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
shit lets just get Samba.......
I'm sick of being The Spuds scouting service.....weren't we interested in Modric/Van der Vaart to name a couple......shit I seem to remember Bale being linked with us too - I suppose one thing to their credit, at least they stick their neck out and buy the fuckers.......we on the other hand would rather sit down, with a nice cuppa and watch the world go by
(fuck did I just say all that.......last week I was saying how chilled out we should be......somebody must have switched the air conditioner off!)
No we were never interested in VDV, don't think we were interested in Modric either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
As for Bale, a lot of clubs were apparently after him.
If Spurs got Samba it would simply due to our unwillingness to pay the asking price and make our move quickly, it's not anyone else's fault we can't complete transfers quickly and spend months haggling.
SSN say Wenger says Cesc and Nasri will stay this season. We've also signed Gervinho, apparently.
beg to differ bout Van der Vaart - there were stories about his sick wife and Arsenal being a club touted with showing an interest but its water under a bridge now.....but I agree about only having ourselves to blame if we miss out - surely Spurs have enough CBs?Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe