Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Yep, that Ward cunt is a cancer. The lowest of the low in the agent scum rankings, and that takes some doing.

Thing is, I reckon Ox is about as good as most of these 50, 60 mill "superstars" that are filling up agents' pockets with their ship jumping. When it all comes down to it, there is a handful of genuine talent out there and then all these other hype merchants who are commanding big fees. On a practical level, we'll get no more out of hype merchants than an Ox or Ramsey or even Wilshere can already give us. We've already seen that with our 30 mill signings. And up north, that 55 mill Sterling bloke is a joke.

So in this silly market it'll cost us 50 mill to replace Ox. Might as well hang on to him. He's a decent player. Not a world beater, but better than some of the shite that is being hawked around for mega fees.

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I like Ox but have to disagree with that. We’re talking about a player that still hasn’t scored more than 10 goals in a season. In just the Prem alone with 129 appearances, he still hasn’t scored 10 goals. 9 goals in total with 18 assist in total. He turns 24 next month. Sterling is still 22 and last season alone he registered 10 goals and 21 assist in all comps.

Since joining Arsenal, Ox has only scored a few goals and assists here and there. He should leave Arsenal this summer or next if he has any common sense. He doesn’t want to end up like Theo. But saying that, Theo doesn’t have the natural ability of the Ox but was producing a lot more for us in terms of end product at the Ox’s age. 13 goals and 9 assists in 2010/11 for Theo.

It's a worry considering what the Ox should be capable of. Whoever is around him would be foolish to advise he signs up for another contract with Arsenal. He came to us off a season where he scored 10 goals with 9 assists for Southampton. It was league 1 but he’s taken a serious step back in terms of progress with us. He can’t have the right people around him if they're not questioning his progress here. He doesn't want to end up in limbo and try to develop as a wingback so late on in his career and then turn around years later and say he's a natural CM. The manager has no idea what he's doing with him.

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Originally Posted by selassie

Aye, my preference would be to keep Ox, but if he is playing games then get rid. We technically have a couple of players already at the club who could replace him immediately, Alex Iwobi for example could do IMO.

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I like Ox too but I think he should leave. It's time he plays as a CM. I like Iwobi too but if we're sticking to 3 at the back, I really don't know where he fits into the picture. He's not a wingback or a CM. Would have to play a similar role to what we've seen from Ozil and Sanchez in that system.

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

I like Ox but have to disagree with that. We’re talking about a player that still hasn’t scored more than 10 goals in a season. In just the Prem alone with 129 appearances, he still hasn’t scored 10 goals. 9 goals in total with 18 assist in total. He turns 24 next month. Sterling is still 22 and last season alone he registered 10 goals and 21 assist in all comps.

Since joining Arsenal, Ox has only scored a few goals and assists here and there. He should leave Arsenal this summer or next if he has any common sense. He doesn’t want to end up like Theo. But saying that, Theo doesn’t have the natural ability of the Ox but was producing a lot more for us in terms of end product at the Ox’s age. 13 goals and 9 assists in 2010/11 for Theo.

It's a worry considering what the Ox should be capable of. Whoever is around him would be foolish to advise he signs up for another contract with Arsenal. He came to us off a season where he scored 10 goals with 9 assists for Southampton. It was league 1 but he’s taken a serious step back in terms of progress with us. He can’t have the right people around him if they're not questioning his progress here. He doesn't want to end up in limbo and try to develop as a wingback so late on in his career and then turn around years later and say he's a natural CM. The manager has no idea what he's doing with him.

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On the basis of the manager, in fairness, all our players should leave if they want to realise their full potential.

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

I like Ox too but I think he should leave. It's time he plays as a CM. I like Iwobi too but if we're sticking to 3 at the back, I really don't know where he fits into the picture. He's not a wingback or a CM. Would have to play a similar role to what we've seen from Ozil and Sanchez in that system.

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Everyone gets a chance at Arsenal. That's what the world class injury list is there for.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

On the basis of the manager, in fairness, all our players should leave if they want to realise their full potential.

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True for most of the young players.

But on another note, if Ox is worth £50m+ would it be fair to put him on a £140k+ contract?

Ospina, Debauchy, Gabriel, Merts, Gibbs, Welbeck, Chambers, Coq, Wiltshire, Walcott & Giroud.
A complete 4-5-1 team of pure cack that Wumger has amazingly been able to buy or keep at the club.
If he's worried about 50-60 million for Lamar, sell this lot to Hartlepool - it'll be their best team in years.

Mertesacker not good enough for Hartlepool IMO. He's slow and would get outpaced by the pacy players who always outpace him every week.

Mertesacker was on his way to the bottle back and he still is because he's so slow.

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

Mertesacker not good enough for Hartlepool IMO. He's slow and would get outpaced by the pacy players who always outpace him every week.

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Thanks for coming :getcoat:

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Originally Posted by Dein-machine

Ospina, Debauchy, Gabriel, Merts, Gibbs, Welbeck, Chambers, Coq, Wiltshire, Walcott & Giroud.
A complete 4-5-1 team of pure cack that Wumger has amazingly been able to buy or keep at the club.
If he's worried about 50-60 million for Lamar, sell this lot to Hartlepool - it'll be their best team in years.

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Sell them to Hartlepool to raise money for Lemar? :lol:

OK I'm not arguing with someone who think's Hartlepool have that sort of money.