It would help I guess if we actually made a bidQuote:
Arsenal have told Gonzalo Higuain, 25, to hurry up and decide if he wants to join them after growing frustrated with the striker delaying his move to north London.
Full story: Metro
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It would help I guess if we actually made a bidQuote:
Arsenal have told Gonzalo Higuain, 25, to hurry up and decide if he wants to join them after growing frustrated with the striker delaying his move to north London.
Full story: Metro
Putting my current issue aside, this is the one that really confuses me.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Yes, yes he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Suarez is better than Higuain for sure and he's Prem Proven. So if Wenger thinks he could get Suarez then he's gonna try.
This is what makes managing Arsenal much more difficult than City or Chavs. They can buy both, we can only buy one. The danger is whilst we're waiting for Suarez, Higuain will go elsewhere. Is it worth the risk? I dunno, but if Suarez wasn't a wanker he'd have been voted the best player in the Prem last season.
Also let's not forget that Higuain is owned by the biggest club in the world. Not easy to buy from them and not easy to tempt the player away.
Where have we heard that before?
Oh yes I remember, last summer, the summer before, the summer before that, the summer before that, the summer before that....
:lol:
It's just a straight up copy and paste job from the last 8 years.
Just fuck off.
Looks like he won't be comingQuote:
Everton midfielder Marouane Fellaini's buy-out clause of £23.5m expires on 14 August and, if Arsenal and Manchester United want to sign the 25-year-old Belgium international for that amount, they have one month left to do so.
Full story: Sunday Mirror
That's no argument. The reason shits changed because of tolerance levels and what's deemed as acceptable and what we turn a blind eye too. What's the difference between Suarez trying to wind up a player and a crowed in Italy, Spain or Eastern Europe shouting racist chants to throw a star player of their game? If you have no problem with Suarez coming here, then you must be able to understand why FIFA do very little to combat racist chants and hand out petty fines. Self interest is what it boils down to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I doubt we'll sign him and if we did, Wenger would have to speak with the squad about it first. He comes with baggage. Saying that, it might do him some good to be here.
At this point I don't even care anymore, it's clear our manager has become some what of a coward. He's happy with the minimum pressure/expectations to just qualify for the CL and make out the group stages.
After every season, he can get patted on the back for qualifying for the CL, and he can gloat, and tell everyone, what a wonderful job he did. With a team that cost so much more less than City, Chelsea, United etc. And how he's gonna try and bring some top class players for the next season.
I guess it boils down to the quality of the player. Suarez seems like a one man wrecking machine. I don't think you could put Higuain in a team like Liverpool's and get such performances. I guess their just waiting to see what's available. If we splash the bulk on Higuain and then find Saurez or Rooney are available, they'd probably be pissed.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
But this could all be smoke and mirrors as usual.
It's tedious and even if we're playing the waiting game with the strikers, I think we need to conduct business in other areas to show our intent and strengthen the squad. Potential players could be watching our moves and weighing up how serious we are about winning. We could potentially wait all summer for Higuain, Rooney or Suarez and when it comes to the crunch they may just turn us down because we haven't done much else.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
There's not much other business to be done, only 1 or 2 players remember!Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
So let's sit every player down and have them do a series of morality and correct thinking tests - the ones who pass we can sign. Suarez is a racist because he's the one picked out from the crowd. We also need to urgently interrogate the players who are already at the club to ensure they think the right way. Except the black players, they are automatically not racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
This will be the new virtual trophy will it? Stability. It's all very convenient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
So forget Rooney - that was never happening. He wants a quarter of a million a week, we won't pay that and quite rightly so. It's a ridiculous and unjustified wage for a player that blows hot and cold. A £30mill bid for Suarez, if it even happened, is also silly. We're just testing the resolve of Liverpool and seeing if the player will jump. The bid's not serious at the moment and the wages would be prohibitive again. Higuain seemed more realistic but we'll probably haggle that one all the way to the finish line, or up until the point somebody else sweeps in and gets the deal done. We're haggling in a market where the seller doesn't have to play along. Every year it's unimaginable we don't do something to genuinely strengthen the squad. It will be just as crazy this year if we go into the season weak in the key positions but it's looking increasingly likely that's what's intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Lucky for us, United has a new manager and Spurs well are Spurs, so we'll worm our to 3rd or 4th again. Us qualifying for CL these past couple of seasons, has had a lot to do with other teams around us, fuck ups, more so than our quality. But they'll take it, and congratulate themselves for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
heh
I just said you were talking shit regarding the MLk comparison and real racism. Signing Suarez is something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
im not sure wenger would spend £40m on a player though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
suarez isnt going for a penny less.
wenger will never spend that much on him, deep down he knows it, so im not sure why he's wasting his time and possibly losing out on higuain.
“We are coming out of that period and I hope in the next two or three years the club will be competing for the Premier League.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
:haha: :haha:
im not sure he's worth £12m more than higuain though when as you say, he has so much baggage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
quality player, no doubt about it, but when you've got the choice of higuain at £28m or suarez at £40m (minimum), higuain seems like a better choice.
deep down we know suarez will probably be off in 3 years time because he'll want to win trophies. we'll just be another stepping stone for his dream move to madrid, which all south american players want in their career, because of the cultural affinity and reputation that club has in south america.
at least with higuain he's won trophies with an elite so he might be more accepting of a communitarian club where he can call wenger his dad for the next 10 years, like most our players seem to do.
i'm sure they will - but it's the quality of player we get that will be the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
i am not about to cherry pick stories from the media to believe in. i didn't buy the ancelotti/higuain thing at all and look what happened. so i'm not buying some little prick from goal.com writing a few paragraphs making shit up.
if theres a press conference with an announcement or its on the website, then i'm in. whether wenger spends money or not, they'll speculate about something, anything to keep their page hits up, to keep people on their site. there's no exclusivity about arsenal - the money thing is just their angle on our club. utd's is moyes being a newbie, city is squad upheavel and chelsea they have they tongue firmly shoved up the smug ****s arse for now. spurs is they need strikers.
fuck believing any of this shit until it actually tangibly means something.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...al/8051143.stmQuote:
Arsene Wenger has admitted that if Arsenal do not end their trophy drought in the next "one or two years" his strategy for the club will have failed.
The Gunners have not won anything since 2005, but team boss Wenger called on supporters to rally behind his team.
"If we do not deliver in one or two years I will be responsible," said the Frenchman, whose contract runs to 2011.
That's a 4 year old article. :haha:
Similar shit being repeated now.
When will this stale bastard fuck off?
As a great man once said
"Same old shit"
Wenger is embarrassing and the day he leaves will be for me the greatest day in Arsenal history
I agree with you to some extent, but the lack of spending on quality has been something that has occurred regularly in the recent past, this article may well be BS but it's basically confirming what we already know in reality. Wenger has some sort of issue with spending money on proven quality players, he wants to eat caviar but only if it's available at fast food prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
If someone asked him, he'd no doubt worm his way out of it by using Man City or some other excuse. I don't think the guy is very honest and the way he conducts his business with regards the fans lacks integrity IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh_Gooner
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Originally Posted by Cripps
So very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Not 10 - 15 million better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
Defo a case of some not knowing just how good Higuain actually is.
There is a good reason why some commentators see him (along with a couple more signings) as perfect to solving most of arsenals problems and turning us into 'contenders'.
He is 10-15m better. Completely different league. Higuain is awesome but Suarez has proven he can pretty much carry a team. Put Higuain at Liverpool and I think they would struggle to finish in the top half.Quote:
Originally Posted by bunsco
But it's irrelevant because we've got no chance of signing Suarez. Chelsea will always outbid and out pay us. We seemingly had a chance of signing Higuain but it has gone ominously quiet on that front. Still think we'll break our transfer record on a striker. But just don't know who.
Agreed. The man has become a cult leader; the kind that would draw the envy of Stalin, Der Fuehrer and other totalitarian leaders. His ascendancy to godlike status has caused a toxic environment, where we've seen fans being bitterly pitted against each other, and more importantly, the reputation of the Club has been terribly damaged under his stewardship, as we're no longer seen as serious club by top players and almost everyone who has some football affiliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
Ffs, another trophyless season or two, and it will be our most unsuccessful stint ever. At what point does his living on past glory cease?
Maybe the envy of Micheal Gove, but them?Quote:
envy of Stalin, Der Fuehrer and other totalitarian leaders
You sound seriously disturbed.
Key stage 3 history :bow:.
So then, have we signed anyone yet?
Yes, the new Henry, Winnebago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He looks really good, is quick, skilful, strong.
spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by bunsco
not 10-15m better. not in a different league. pretty much the same player but higuain has no baggage, has cheaper wages and costs less.
only charlie's would disagree.
time to close the higuain deal.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Master Splinter, normally very stingy in giving out private details, has just revealed a big clue of his age bracket or his occupation. Very interesting indeed.
Gotta admit it, Higuain couldn't have done that, but I think that's been our problem of far too long - having teams that relied heavily on one player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Post invincibles (which relied a bit less on TH14) we've had teams that either relied largely on TH14, Fabregas or more recently RVP.
The successful teams - although having a 'main man' - play in a way that not everything necessarily has to goes through him, hence a variety of ways to win games.
For some reason, when we have a player having a stormer of a season, the rest seem to happily take a kind of backseat. then when they are missing for a while the team suddenly start playing like a toddler who's suddenly lost his/her mother in a crowded shopping centre .
We need a team with players that can take more of a equal responsibility. And I'd think Higuan (as well as being a bit awesome) fits more into that model better than Suarez.
no by the looks of things.....which means I am going back to looking for both a job and flat :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn