Luis Suarez thread

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

Yeah that's what I meant, Bale replaces Ronaldo and Suarez is a bonus. The RM fans voted Bale as their number 1 target.

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I think they might riot if they sold Ronaldo anyway thinking about it. :lol:

And yes, it was Bale they were chanting for at Illaramendi's unveiling, so we can probably rule out Real Madrid only getting Suarez at the very least! There has been nothing to suggest Real Madrid are after him though, they just had some Spanish based journo on TalkSport saying that they nor Barca have even slightly indicated the possibility of getting him and this is Real Madrid. If they want a player, they would have made it publically known by now.

Who's to say he hasn't got a release clause in there, but for a higher fee? Maybe that £55m we kept repeating, and that it was a step process; at a serious stage we inform you of the bid, and at another stage we accept it.

But we don't know how the fine details of football contracts work, we don't know how often teams make bids for players that don't make it out of the manager's office and that the player never hears about, we don't know often these clauses are put in. But to act as if Suarez and his agent are the little men here against the behemoth of Liverpool Football Club seems very naive. These are multi millionaires with a whole bunch of experianced agents and lawyers on both sides sorting out a complicated contract over a period of weeks and months. It isn't as if Rodgers sits down with Suarez and forces him to sign a deal, whilst Ayre nudges his elbow with glee thinking "we've got on over on him" at 5 to 5 on Friday evening as they purposely try and shaft their biggest asset.

Every wrangle and clause is gone over with a fine tooth-comb, situations are played out and eventually the players signs it of his own free will. And if you sign something not knowing what it is you're signing, then frankly that's your own fault.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

Phil Thompson just on SSN saying he thinks this is all agent driven

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Yeah cos no way would the player actually want to leave Liverpool. They really are a strange bunch of players, ex players and supporters.

We have the opposite problem, our former players constantly say we're shit and that top players shouldn't join us.

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http://www1.skysports.com/watch/vide...han-40-million

Video of it.

Thommo. :lol:

Another one aghast that we, the true pub team of the league could ever get a good player to join us.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You have to hope they aren't that stupid. We're involved in the most complicated saga of the window, a lot has to go right for this deal to come off. So who else is in the frame should it go wrong? Not a peep or a leak from anywhere, nobody talking about anything. Are we that good at keeping our targets a secret?

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actually thats my main worry. that they'll cock up such a big transfer. most of the board have a business and law background, it's very different from football negotiations. they cocked up higuain and have already insulted liverpool. how much experience do the board have in big transfer negotiations? we've gone years without a big deal for incoming players and even when we did, it was before gazidis and co were here. i worry they are out of their depth dealing in complicated transfers with top players involved. do they know what they're doing? it's all easy going to africa and signing up a no-hoper from a club you've hardly heard of, but very different when dealing with historically dense clubs.

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Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss

Who's to say he hasn't got a release clause in there, but for a higher fee? Maybe that £55m we kept repeating, and that it was a step process; at a serious stage we inform you of the bid, and at another stage we accept it.

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Wouldn't make much sense having a release clause of £55m, nobody would pay it. The release clause/whatever clause was inserted to get Suarez to re-sign so it was at his request. I can't see him wanting to set it so high.

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Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss

But we don't know how the fine details of football contracts work, we don't know how often teams make bids for players that don't make it out of the manager's office and that the player never hears about, we don't know often these clauses are put in. But to act as if Suarez and his agent are the little men here against the behemoth of Liverpool Football Club seems very naive. These are multi millionaires with a whole bunch of experianced agents and lawyers on both sides sorting out a complicated contract over a period of weeks and months. It isn't as if Rodgers sits down with Suarez and forces him to sign a deal, whilst Ayre nudges his elbow with glee thinking "we've got on over on him" at 5 to 5 on Friday evening as they purposely try and shaft their biggest asset. Every wrangle and clause is gone over with a fine tooth-comb, situations are played out and eventually the players signs it of his own free will. And if you sign something not knowing what it is you're signing, then frankly that's your own fault.

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I completely agree. But footballers are thick and I don't think their advisors are much brighter. Certainly every time an agent is wheeled out on SSN he comes accross as a brain dead toad. It must be time for Barry Silkman to make an appearance soon.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

I think they might riot if they sold Ronaldo anyway thinking about it. :lol:

And yes, it was Bale they were chanting for at Illaramendi's unveiling, so we can probably rule out Real Madrid only getting Suarez at the very least! There has been nothing to suggest Real Madrid are after him though, they just had some Spanish based journo on TalkSport saying that they nor Barca have even slightly indicated the possibility of getting him and this is Real Madrid. If they want a player, they would have made it publically known by now.

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Do RM fans even like Ronaldo these days? I thought they were getting a bit bored of him.

They sold Higuain and I don't think they replaced him did they? You'd think they might want to add a striker.

liverpool meltdowns everywhere. lovely stuff :lol:

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

Do RM fans even like Ronaldo these days? I thought they were getting a bit bored of him.

They sold Higuain and I don't think they replaced him did they? You'd think they might want to add a striker.

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Even if they don't, seeing him sold when Barca have brought in Neymar won't go down well. They warmed to Ronaldo more during the course of last season, whether that's for putting down Barca time and again or more to do with falling out with Mourinho :lol:, I'm not really sure but either way, it's not as poisonous as it was.

Bale would be the 'replacement' for Higuain, I think. They still have so many options up front as it stands, it's hard to see it as just one goes out, one comes in, that's the definite replacement.

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

actually thats my main worry. that they'll cock up such a big transfer. most of the board have a business and law background, it's very different from football negotiations. they cocked up higuain and have already insulted liverpool. how much experience do the board have in big transfer negotiations? we've gone years without a big deal for incoming players and even when we did, it was before gazidis and co were here. i worry they are out of their depth dealing in complicated transfers with top players involved. do they know what they're doing? it's all easy going to africa and signing up a no-hoper from a club you've hardly heard of, but very different when dealing with historically dense clubs.

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We've done plenty of business with the big boys. It's just the other way round.

We've been in Liverpool's shoes and done the whole 'beat the chest, we're not selling routine' for years. Wenger went off on one about Mancini in the Nasri deal, still sold him to City. Barca have always been a nightmare. Sold them Henry, Hleb, Cesc and Song in recent years. Who can forget the Cashley show?

Clubs eventuallu crumble when they've run out of options.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/vide...han-40-million

Video of it.

Thommo. :lol:

Another one aghast that we, the true pub team of the league could ever get a good player to join us.

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That's actually a different video, seems like Thommo likes talking today.

"Suarez is better than Cavani so we should get at least £55m"

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"Why choose Arsenal instead of Liverpool"

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These people are nuts. We've got Carragher to look forward to trying to understand on Sky Sports next season. Why does Sky give these thick fucks a job??