Fabregas goes to Barca for £35million

We're a couple of weeks away from kick-off. The damage has already been done. Even if we got a player in now he'd have missed the pre-season. It's not just the Fabregas and Nasri situations, we need defenders too but no sign of any arriving. Who knows what that pathetic £10mill Jagielka stunt was all about? We have 2 weeks to resolve the Fabregas and Nasri issues, get replacements in if needed, bolster the defence if Wenger is genuinely serious about that plus prepare the team for a bloody hard opening fixture list which includes qualification for the CL. The fact we've left it this late is a joke and another indictment of the way we do business as a club. We are rapidly approaching the worst case scenario (which seems to be the default scenario with Arsenal), no players in, Fabregas and Nasri still unsettles and their futures undecided come kick-off, an a team even weaker than last year and missing both these players for the kick-off. But it could get even worse if both wantaways leave on the last day of the transfer window. We already have a team with zero confidence, the club is doing nothing to correct that, the dilly-dallying board and manager are making it worse if anything. Also, what's going on with the Eboue, Denilson and Bendtner deals? Are these guys going or not?

Contrast this with Utd who got their business done fast and without any fuss or stupid "waiting period" or "in-between" speeches in the media. We've heard nothing about them for weeks, I guess they are getting on with pre-season safe in the knowledge of who's actually in the squad come kick-off. That's how you run a team. It's laughable our board and Wenger get held up as a shining example of how to run a football club. In practical terms (football) they really don't seem to have a clue.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We're a couple of weeks away from kick-off. The damage has already been done. Even if we got a player in now he'd have missed the pre-season. It's not just the Fabregas and Nasri situations, we need defenders too but no sign of any arriving. Who knows what that pathetic £10mill Jagielka stunt was all about? We have 2 weeks to resolve the Fabregas and Nasri issues, get replacements in if needed, bolster the defence if Wenger is genuinely serious about that plus prepare the team for a bloody hard opening fixture list which includes qualification for the CL. The fact we've left it this late is a joke and another indictment of the way we do business as a club. We are rapidly approaching the worst case scenario (which seems to be the default scenario with Arsenal), no players in, Fabregas and Nasri still unsettles and their futures undecided come kick-off, an a team even weaker than last year and missing both these players for the kick-off. But it could get even worse if both wantaways leave on the last day of the transfer window. We already have a team with zero confidence, the club is doing nothing to correct that, the dilly-dallying board and manager are making it worse if anything. Also, what's going on with the Eboue, Denilson and Bendtner deals? Are these guys going or not?

Contrast this with Utd who got their business done fast and without any fuss or stupid "waiting period" or "in-between" speeches in the media. We've heard nothing about them for weeks, I guess they are getting on with pre-season safe in the knowledge of who's actually in the squad come kick-off. That's how you run a team. It's laughable our board and Wenger get held up as a shining example of how to run a football club. In practical terms (football) they really don't seem to have a clue.

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Spot on my friend, spot on!

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We're a couple of weeks away from kick-off. The damage has already been done. Even if we got a player in now he'd have missed the pre-season. It's not just the Fabregas and Nasri situations, we need defenders too but no sign of any arriving. Who knows what that pathetic £10mill Jagielka stunt was all about? We have 2 weeks to resolve the Fabregas and Nasri issues, get replacements in if needed, bolster the defence if Wenger is genuinely serious about that plus prepare the team for a bloody hard opening fixture list which includes qualification for the CL. The fact we've left it this late is a joke and another indictment of the way we do business as a club. We are rapidly approaching the worst case scenario (which seems to be the default scenario with Arsenal), no players in, Fabregas and Nasri still unsettles and their futures undecided come kick-off, an a team even weaker than last year and missing both these players for the kick-off. But it could get even worse if both wantaways leave on the last day of the transfer window. We already have a team with zero confidence, the club is doing nothing to correct that, the dilly-dallying board and manager are making it worse if anything. Also, what's going on with the Eboue, Denilson and Bendtner deals? Are these guys going or not?

Contrast this with Utd who got their business done fast and without any fuss or stupid "waiting period" or "in-between" speeches in the media. We've heard nothing about them for weeks, I guess they are getting on with pre-season safe in the knowledge of who's actually in the squad come kick-off. That's how you run a team. It's laughable our board and Wenger get held up as a shining example of how to run a football club. In practical terms (football) they really don't seem to have a clue.

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I agree. We need someone like Dein to be on the business side of the club. The Jagielka stunt (and Samba) is just crazy. If they want 12mil, give it them.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We're a couple of weeks away from kick-off. The damage has already been done. Even if we got a player in now he'd have missed the pre-season. It's not just the Fabregas and Nasri situations, we need defenders too but no sign of any arriving. Who knows what that pathetic £10mill Jagielka stunt was all about? We have 2 weeks to resolve the Fabregas and Nasri issues, get replacements in if needed, bolster the defence if Wenger is genuinely serious about that plus prepare the team for a bloody hard opening fixture list which includes qualification for the CL. The fact we've left it this late is a joke and another indictment of the way we do business as a club. We are rapidly approaching the worst case scenario (which seems to be the default scenario with Arsenal), no players in, Fabregas and Nasri still unsettles and their futures undecided come kick-off, an a team even weaker than last year and missing both these players for the kick-off. But it could get even worse if both wantaways leave on the last day of the transfer window. We already have a team with zero confidence, the club is doing nothing to correct that, the dilly-dallying board and manager are making it worse if anything. Also, what's going on with the Eboue, Denilson and Bendtner deals? Are these guys going or not?

Contrast this with Utd who got their business done fast and without any fuss or stupid "waiting period" or "in-between" speeches in the media. We've heard nothing about them for weeks, I guess they are getting on with pre-season safe in the knowledge of who's actually in the squad come kick-off. That's how you run a team. It's laughable our board and Wenger get held up as a shining example of how to run a football club. In practical terms (football) they really don't seem to have a clue.

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Denilson has gone to Sao Paulo on a season-long loan, and has played twice already.

While the club has not scaled the heights that some fans demand, it is not accurate to say that, in terms of football, the club does not have a clue. The fact of the matter is that Arsenal F.C. is more successful, both footballing wise and financially, than the vast majority of clubs in England, Britain and Europe. We may demand much better but that cannot be used to blind us to the existing level of success.

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Originally Posted by Justhandguns

I agree. We need someone like Dein to be on the business side of the club. The Jagielka stunt (and Samba) is just crazy. If they want 12mil, give it them.

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You mean you would like to have the person who said that the new Wembley stadium should be Arsenal's new home in charge of the "business" side of the club? Wasn't this super business genius involved with negotiating the sponsorship deals with Emirates, etc.? And aren't people complaining about how crappy they are now?

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

Denilson has gone to Sao Paulo on a season-long loan, and has played twice already.

While the club has not scaled the heights that some fans demand, it is not accurate to say that, in terms of football, the club does not have a clue. The fact of the matter is that Arsenal F.C. is more successful, both footballing wise and financially, than the vast majority of clubs in England, Britain and Europe. We may demand much better but that cannot be used to blind us to the existing level of success.

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Past success, you mean? We haven't had any success on the pitch for 6 years. We're living in the past and sliding down the table. We're not dropping a position a year, it's more that our ambitions are dropping bit by bit. We used to be top 2, now it's top 4, the trend is down. So we've won nothing and the trend is down, how is that success? We have a manager that celebrates finishing 4th and views it as a trophy. That's delusional, it's not success. However, the board is defining the word success in the share price they'll bank as they jump ship. For a fraction of the greedy pigs' bonanza the team could have been sorted. I'm not blind to what's going on.

Denilson being on loan is not the same as him being gone. There's still every chance he'll come back, especially now Sao Paulo has seen him play.

Can we please just let the lad go. He's far too good for this team and wants to go and play for his boyhood club who just so happen to be the greatest club team of all time. Jesus.

Imagine the outcry and moaning Wenger and this pussy Arsenal board would make if Barca had of signed Wilshere for buttons when he was 16 and now Wilshere wants to come back to Arsenal but dirty Barca want £40m for him. They'd be moaning their arses off.

This club sickens me. All this 'pay the market rate' for Cesc yet we bid less for Jagielka this year than we did last year.

This club and manager are such moaning hypocritical bastards. Fuck off.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

Can we please just let the lad go. He's far too good for this team and wants to go and play for his boyhood club who just so happen to be the greatest club team of all time. Jesus.

Imagine the outcry and moaning Wenger and this pussy Arsenal board would make if Barca had of signed Wilshere for buttons when he was 16 and now Wilshere wants to come back to Arsenal but dirty Barca want £40m for him. They'd be moaning their arses off.

This club sickens me. All this 'pay the market rate' for Cesc yet we bid less for Jagielka this year than we did last year.

This club and manager are such moaning hypocritical bastards. Fuck off.

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Yeah but could he please either go or stay before the last day of the transfer window and not on it? That'll just give Wenger and the board the excuse to pocket the cash.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

Can we please just let the lad go. He's far too good for this team and wants to go and play for his boyhood club who just so happen to be the greatest club team of all time. Jesus.

Imagine the outcry and moaning Wenger and this pussy Arsenal board would make if Barca had of signed Wilshere for buttons when he was 16 and now Wilshere wants to come back to Arsenal but dirty Barca want £40m for him. They'd be moaning their arses off.

This club sickens me. All this 'pay the market rate' for Cesc yet we bid less for Jagielka this year than we did last year.

This club and manager are such moaning hypocritical bastards. Fuck off.

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We're trying to get the best deal, they're trying to get the best deal, I believe it's called 'negotiating' in industry terms.

Best club team of all time? :lol:Couldn't give a fuck if they are Cescs boyhood club, they pay what we want or he stays