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We seem to be getting the easier deals done, but remain unconvincing when it comes to the most important transfers. I think I am resigned to the fact that whatever happens, AFC are simply not a club that will inspire or excite its fans over transfers. Our business is so protracted that even when deals are completed their sagas have made it all a bit meh.
We don't need £300mQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I explained a lot of it in the post i put up the other day but this is the essence of it
We will get money for selling Zin and Nelson, Tavares has a sell-on clause which could get us around 13m.
The widely reported budget (pre-sales) is we have '£200m plus' given CL money etc
So let's call it £220m:
Zubi -50
Zin +10
Tavares+13
Nelson +20 (your estimation I think)
Mosquera plus Norgaard -26
Kepa -5
So that's -£38m
From £220 that leaves £182m
Sesko is reportedly maybe 70m euros i.e. £60m
Eze is looking to be around £62m
So that still leaves £60m for a winger
We could raise even more if for example we sell Calafiori, as he can't play LB and is injury prone
and on wages, Partey was on a lot and Jorg probably was too, i should imagine Norgaard will be on less and also Mosquera will be on less as s younger player
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Originally Posted by IBK
If (and it is an 'if') we get one of Sesko or Gyokeres, half the fanbase will be annoyed we didn't buy the other player, and the other half will as you say just think 'finally ffs'
Arteta and Berta have wiped out all the excitement we could have had and, while I have nothing against the transfers in question, getting all the defnsive ones done first has only added to the frustration
Yep - like I say the deals that appear to have been done are (Zubimendi excepted) nibbling round the edges rather than getting into the real meat. To continue the analogy, we appear to be making a real meal of getting our forward recruitment - that the club has known for 2 years is essential - done. This does not inspire confidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
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Originally Posted by Mac76
Sesko is going to be minimum €80 million which is around £67 million (and that’s the minimum I think Leipzig are trying to hold out for more). Eze will be 60 million pound minimum (plus again with add ons). The negotiation on price determines whether we get Rodrygo or we get Madueke.
If we are setting out our transfer budget by what we hope to receive in player sales, this in many ways leaves you a hostage to fortune. And many people on here can’t seem to understand there’s a difference between getting the value you want for players you want to sell, than those you don’t.
Either way it’s a tight balancing act
it's tight but as I say I think there are players like Cala they could move on if they need to raise a bit more
Also while I realise he's not got a lot of interest, Vieira's still around and I wouldn't rule out a quick sale for maybe £10m at the end of the window
We won't get +33m for Taveres& Nelson, as the latter has very little value now and the former's terms on the sell on clause isn't that great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
If we're looking to make money, Zin & Viera are our only hopes. We really need to pray that Forests Nuno (or another Portuguese loving team in the EPL) pitys us and comes for Viera as Portuguese clubs are too shrewd to offer us good money due to our poor reputation for transfer dealings.
The thing about wasting money and going after players that are not necessary as our first purchases is it leaves us with a faux notion that we are actually recruiting and strengthening, which was exactly what happened last season when we wasted our budget on players that were not necessary.
What happened to prioritising important purchases and making secondary signings come as loans?
We could have bought a striker, go for loan moves for the likes of Rashford, Madueke, Sancho, get Jonathan David on a free as a 2nd striker. Loans moves with obligation to buy (with minimum appearance terms) could have been initiated for Kepa, Mosquera and even Norgaard.
Just like IBK mentioned, we just went after what was cheap and unnecessary first, just like we did last season with almost a £100m of "marquee" signings that we are already contemplating on selling!
i totally agree that last summer's window was a disaster, Merino is a mediocre trundler who just by chance did a job up front for a while and as i say Cala can't play LB and is injury prone
and as i keep saying i think we're messing around with signing attacking players when we should just get on with it
but i'm not going to take any of the above and say that it means the business we've done so far, if you take it in isolation, doesn't make sense
the only point at which we can call it a mistake is if we find we're £15m or so short of being able to buy someone we need up front, but I just don't see that happening, if we don't get our targets it will be because we've buggered up the negotiations and other clubs swoop for these players
I realise you could say that we're only negotiating so hard becasue we've spent some of our budget elsewhere and that's valid, but again I think the money is actually there and I'm not going to sit here and say Saliba doesn't need cover or that we didn't need to replace the two DMs we've lost, because we do
Eze is reportedly keen on signing for us. So it looks like this may well happen if we don’t mess Palace around with the fee.
he was an Arsenal fan and was actually with the club when young (untill we released him :doh:) so he'd be coming homeQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars