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31-03-2016, 11:38 AM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Mkhitaryan is really good. We'd probably have to move a couple of players on first though, Walcott and Oxlade spring to mind.

Seems like a good signing, but read yesterday Juve were interested but his agent said it's not going to happen (nor the move to Arsenal) as Dortmund have put a very good deal on the table.
31-03-2016, 11:55 AM
Dicks and chicks

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We've been linked to at least 800 players already. It's almost as if the agents and the media are colluding.

Werent we even linked with a birmingham city reject striker at one point
31-03-2016, 01:13 PM
alexander

I would be happy to see the back of Theo, Arteta, Rosicky, flamini, and to an extent, Ramsay. I think Joel looks like he offers plenty in the wide role, with the option of moving to CF at times. Ozil and Alexis are keepers, Alex Iwobi looks a good talent, and like Ox has some power, skill and speed to his game, and at the mo he deserves his place in our starting 11. Welbeck I like, much the same as Iwobi with what he offers. Ox deserves a little longer, but time is running out, 2 seasons back I thought he was well ahead of Theo, offering not only the pace of Theo, but also skill to beat a man and the strength to go with it. Sadly he has plateaued and not really kicked on. Think he will get there though. As for Wilshere, like the way he plays, his desire is clearly there, but with his injury record, will he ever really make it? he has missed so much football, and he seems to have a style of play that induces injuries. He tends to hold onto the ball that little bit too long and that invites the tackle. Elmo looks good so far, but i dont like to get carried away too soon, but he and Coq could for a good solid partnership in there. Santi, well he is a great player, and one we have really missed, two footed and gets stuff moving for us, but he is getting on a little now.
As far as I see it, our midfield really needs some work, but I cant see all this happening, its just not Wengers style. Cant see another DM coming in as he bought Elmo and has Coq, that will be enough for Wenger (although we know they will both be out for months next season, its the arsenal way). We are desperate for a decent CF, Olly is good, but he isnt quite there, and his goals come in patches, although I do think we overplay him. Theo i just dont trust to get enough goals. Welbeck will get them, and I think if he had had a full season at CF with us, he would have put away more of the chances Ozil made for Giroud, and given Giroud the break he looks like he needs at times.
Plenty of work to be done this summer, so I expect Wenger to come out with 1) Not enough top top quality. 2) difficult to do business with the Euros. 3) Dont want to `kill` players coming back. etc etc.
31-03-2016, 01:27 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by alexander

I would be happy to see the back of Theo, Arteta, Rosicky, flamini, and to an extent, Ramsay. I think Joel looks like he offers plenty in the wide role, with the option of moving to CF at times. Ozil and Alexis are keepers, Alex Iwobi looks a good talent, and like Ox has some power, skill and speed to his game, and at the mo he deserves his place in our starting 11. Welbeck I like, much the same as Iwobi with what he offers. Ox deserves a little longer, but time is running out, 2 seasons back I thought he was well ahead of Theo, offering not only the pace of Theo, but also skill to beat a man and the strength to go with it. Sadly he has plateaued and not really kicked on. Think he will get there though. As for Wilshere, like the way he plays, his desire is clearly there, but with his injury record, will he ever really make it? he has missed so much football, and he seems to have a style of play that induces injuries. He tends to hold onto the ball that little bit too long and that invites the tackle. Elmo looks good so far, but i dont like to get carried away too soon, but he and Coq could for a good solid partnership in there. Santi, well he is a great player, and one we have really missed, two footed and gets stuff moving for us, but he is getting on a little now.
As far as I see it, our midfield really needs some work, but I cant see all this happening, its just not Wengers style. Cant see another DM coming in as he bought Elmo and has Coq, that will be enough for Wenger (although we know they will both be out for months next season, its the arsenal way). We are desperate for a decent CF, Olly is good, but he isnt quite there, and his goals come in patches, although I do think we overplay him. Theo i just dont trust to get enough goals. Welbeck will get them, and I think if he had had a full season at CF with us, he would have put away more of the chances Ozil made for Giroud, and given Giroud the break he looks like he needs at times.
Plenty of work to be done this summer, so I expect Wenger to come out with 1) Not enough top top quality. 2) difficult to do business with the Euros. 3) Dont want to `kill` players coming back. etc etc.

Agree with a lot of that. Shame about Rosicky. So injury prone and I wish he'd have been given more games as CM or AM. Talented wasted.

I like Welbeck but I'm not sold on him playing as CF just yet. His finishing is iffy. Seems like the type that can't his footing right before striking the ball. The absolute sitter he recently missed is an example of what I mean. Seems a bit clumsy. He needs to play the rest of the season though. Giroud shouldn't be an option.
31-03-2016, 01:33 PM
alexander

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Agree with a lot of that. Shame about Rosicky. So injury prone and I wish he'd have been given more games as CM or AM. Talented wasted.

I like Welbeck but I'm not sold on him playing as CF just yet. His finishing is iffy. Seems like the type that can't his footing right before striking the ball. The absolute sitter he recently missed is an example of what I mean. Seems a bit clumsy. He needs to play the rest of the season though. Giroud shouldn't be an option.

I can remember us signing Rosicky (10 years ago now!) and was really looking forward to him playing, sadly didnt quite work out, real shame.
Agree about Welbeck, but at the mo out of the realistic up front options we have (him, theo, and oliver) he is the one, although he does miss some sitters, but so does Olly, and dont get me started on Theo!
31-03-2016, 01:53 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by alexander

I can remember us signing Rosicky (10 years ago now!) and was really looking forward to him playing, sadly didnt quite work out, real shame.
Agree about Welbeck, but at the mo out of the realistic up front options we have (him, theo, and oliver) he is the one, although he does miss some sitters, but so does Olly, and dont get me started on Theo!

I was super excited when we made that signing. Was hoping we’d play him and Cesc in a 4-3-3 formation but we stuck him out wide in a 4-4-2 ;). The frustration with Wenger goes back a long way. :lol:

I think Welbeck is the best option right now. I’ve always said Theo should play as striker and thought he did well before getting injured again but on current form, he doesn’t even deserve a shirt. He’s been woeful and really needs to have a strong finish to this season. Welbeck has really come out the gate firing. If he can polish up his game a little and finish strong, he may put aside any doubts I have about him.
31-03-2016, 02:18 PM
Niall_Quinn

Depends what the ambitions of this club are. Do we want to win a title in the argy bargy PL? We should already have a squad good enough to do that.

Do we want to go toe to toe with Bayern and Barca and Marketing (or even Monaco :doh:) in the CL? Well then sorry, but let's forget about Walcott and Welbeck and Campbell and Coquelin and just about every player in this squad. Who do we have that could seriously hold down a spot at the very top level? Ozil, Alexis, Bellerin, Cazorla, Cech, maybe Kos at a push. There's our squad to build on if we want to step up. We were closer ten years ago than we are having realised the so-called benefits of this big finance project. Elite football has passed us and moved off into the distance over the last decade under Wenger and the leeches in the boardroom. A sustainable profit making machine in an industry where sustainability is the biggest handicap you can suffer. That's just not how football works any more, regardless of Wenger wanting it to be so.
01-04-2016, 03:08 AM
mastermind84

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

It's the same squad of players (more or less), but that doesn't mean that it's always the same team - each season's casualty list kind of dictates what we end up with on the pitch at any given moment, so whilst the training methods stay the same, the challenges we face are always going to be different. That's probably a large part of the problem.

One of my biggest gripes with the coaching at the moment is that we have far too many players who have no defined role in the side, and who don't seem to be learning how to do any job properly? Guys like Walcott, Ramsey and Ox are all kind of drifting at the moment - we're asking them to do one job for the team, but instead of telling them in no uncertain terms that that's gonna be their main role, we allow them to carry on thinking of themselves as something else, and they end up not really mastering the specifics of anything. They don't see themselves as right-sided players - they just think they're filling in there for a bit, so they don't really commit to it. What's happening with Chambers? Is he a CB or a RB, or a defensive midfielder? What are we actually teaching him, and training him to be? Has anyone actually taken Flamini to one side and explained the role of a defensive midfielder to him? He talks a good game, but he still just seems to wander about wherever he wants. Have we nailed Wilshere down to long-term role? I know where I'd play him, but I'm not sure Wenger has made up his mind yet. I still don't even know what Rosicky's main role in the side is after all these years! I'm all for a bit of flexibility and adaptability, but I think that kind of intimate knowledge a specific role is important - it gives you something to fall back on, that you can almost do on auto-pilot because you've practiced it to death, when you're out of form, or just not up for it. It gives you confidence, and it can carry you through tough patches.

I also think we've allowed certain players to feel a little too safe and secure in their places in the side. I see a noticeable difference in guys like Coquelin and Campbell, who have come into the side after being farmed out on numerous loans, and look like they're playing for their Arsenal lives! They've been given any place in the side, and they look determined to make it their own, regardless of whether it's how they imagined their careers going when they started out. Iwobi is another one where you see a difference - he looks like he can play anywhere across the front 3, but whichever role you give him, he sticks to it, does the job well, and doesn't continually drift into other areas because that's where he'd rather be playing. This is his big chance, and he knows it. Bellerin is another good example of what you get when you focus a player on one role - there's no question that he's anything other than a RB: he does nothing but learn that one role inside out, and he's already starting to look world-class. That doesn't mean he couldn't fill in somewhere else, like RW, if we ever needed him to, but that flexibility comes second to his main role. If we could apply that same kind of focus and motivation to every member of the squad then there's a lot more that we can squeeze out of this group of players.

Which isn't to say that we don't need a massive spend-up in the summer, because we do. Regardless of all of the above, we're probably going to need at least one more CM and a new RB, probably a new CB and LB, and possibly a new back-up keeper, and that's just replacing players that will likely be leaving or retiring! My gut feeling is that we'll need either another CF or another world-class wide attacker, with one high-profile casualty making way, but I'd like to get a more complete picture of what's going on with the attack first before making that call - as it stands, I think a lot of players have been massively underperforming, and others have been going to waste, and I kind of fear the same thing happening to anyone new who might come in unless we get a grip on the coaching.

Its down to Wumger thinking guys like Alexis and Oxlade and Theo are much more intelligent players than they are and allowing them the freedom to make decisions when they clearly are not that smart.

Only Ozil and Ramsey and Iwobi have that attacking intelligence. (I know Ramsey's name is gonna get someone's piss boiling, but his late runs are chaotic and paralyzes defenses. His problem is where Wumger puts him on the pitch)

The rest of these guys need proper instruction and Wumger does not do that.
01-04-2016, 08:41 AM
Power n Glory

Ramsey isn't an intelligent player. If he were he'd know how to adjust his game so his late runs were more effective without compromising the team.
01-04-2016, 08:59 AM
Marc Overmars

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Ramsey isn't an intelligent player. If he were he'd know how to adjust his game so his late runs were more effective without compromising the team.

Like Scholes in his younger days.

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