Wenger Referendum: Yes Or No

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

It's funny how you advocate someone that has recent success yet stick up for Wenger.

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Didn't realise let's make sure we are getting someone better is a ringing endorsement of Wenger...sticking up for Wenger would be me saying, he's done a good job...he deserves his wages, the characterisation of him as cumudgeonly, intransigent etc is unfair. I don't recall me saying those things, i'm let's get someone in who is guaranteed to push us on not anyone but Wenger

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Originally Posted by selassie

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Yep, it's pretty much a dream job when it comes up for grabs, we will have no shortage of candidates and I would expect them to be top notch ones aswell.

I personally think if we do not see any progress this season, progress both in performance and in terms of strengthening the squad, then I feel Arsene should step aside.

I have major issues with Arsene's management so maybe regardless of what we do his time should be up.

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I'm not attaching any particular time frame to it, myself. I agree that it's probably time that we started making plans for life after Wenger, but I also think that his 3 year deal could be an advantage to us, if it buys us a bit of time to really get that decision right (or maybe even wait for some top candidates to run down their contracts)? He may not be able to take us to that next level, but he's still good enough to keep us more or less where we want to be in the meantime, so I'm not in any immediate rush to see it happen...

Hmmm i'd rather see him go before 2017 if we had someone top class to replace him with, it's incredibly frustrating to be in September and be pretty assured that you won't be winning any major honours again.

Time for a change. Even Fergie called time on his Man U career. Enough is enough.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

let's get someone in who is guaranteed to push us on not anyone but Wenger

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Unfortunately that's pretty much impossible.

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Originally Posted by LDG

I sided on "no" at the end of last season, though like others also thought maybe he deserved a chance to spend some dosh after winning the FA Cup.

Though what I thought about tactical and preparative measures at the end of last season prevail in this.

It's unforgivable to keep leaving is short, both in personel and in conditioning prior to playing each game. No thought of the opposition is ever apparent. That's not confidence, that's neglagence.

I'm not about to crucify the bloke (he seems to be tarnishing his own legacy anyway), call him an idiot etc.as I think he deserves repect, and a place amongst other Arsenal heros. He is quite possibly the most influential manager in our history (for good things). And, dare I say it, in the English game.

It should be the owners and board who let him go quietly, and with respect, as he's hanging himself little bit at the moment.

Will always love the geezer though.

Even though it's a "no". Hope he proves me wrong.

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Someone on the Arseblog summed it up well enough. When we had the best players in the league we could let them go out there and figure out how to win the games, we only had Man U as competition. Now there are at least three other teams, with players every bit as good as ours and the dated approach 'go out there and be creative' isn't good enough, which is why we have floundered in the league for so long.

There's no guarantee that by leaving we'll get in someone who can do better but there is a guarantee that with Wenger staying we will not progress at all which is not good enough given the resources available.

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

I'm not attaching any particular time frame to it, myself. I agree that it's probably time that we started making plans for life after Wenger, but I also think that his 3 year deal could be an advantage to us, if it buys us a bit of time to really get that decision right (or maybe even wait for some top candidates to run down their contracts)? He may not be able to take us to that next level, but he's still good enough to keep us more or less where we want to be in the meantime, so I'm not in any immediate rush to see it happen...

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Fourth place is a tight rope that cannot be balanced forever. The teams below are getting hungrier and growing in belief they can snatch a place. With Liverpool back in the frame now, 5 into 4 doesn't go. We keep pushing our luck and at some point it is going to run out. For us to fall out of the top 4 with the money available and players in the squad it would be a far worse scenario than when Liverpool fell prey to the same thing.

I see what you are saying. But tbh, I'm pretty fed up with the CL. We have become so uncompetitive in it that I don't look forward to it at all. I understand we need it for the revenue (perhaps a bit less now) but this season it would be great if we could just have the money without having to go through the formality of getting knocked out in the last 16.

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Originally Posted by Steve French

I see what you are saying. But tbh, I'm pretty fed up with the CL. We have become so uncompetitive in it that I don't look forward to it at all. I understand we need it for the revenue (perhaps a bit less now) but this season it would be great if we could just have the money without having to go through the formality of getting knocked out in the last 16.

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Amen brotha.. watching us qualify and get knocked out in the last 16 or at best quarters without challenging is just tiring.

I've enjoyed the group games over the last couple of years but we have zero chance of winning it so in some ways it's pointless being in there.