Match Reaction Arsenal 0-1 Swansea

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Originally Posted by Letters

Fine, but we were fantastic against Hull. I didn't see last night's game but by all accounts we were poor first half, better second and on another night would have won.
It's a bad result but after the run we've been on it's a little churlish to moan too much, it happens to every team.
We need to get something at OT, do that and get results in our last two home games and I won't be panicking too much about the Cup Final.

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Poor in the first half does not do it justice. Had last night not been one of my son's birthday presents, I would have gone home at half time. I'm serious.

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Poor in the first half does not do it justice. Had last night not been one of my son's birthday presents, I would have gone home at half time. I'm serious.

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Couldn't you have made going home at half time an extra treat, like a second surprise present?

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

Dont you think Wenger staying or getting the boot should be decided on things larger than the next 5 games? Should we not look at the last 5 or 6 years (at least) as a baseline to understand where we are going as a club under his management?

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Yes of course we should be taking a longer term view, and I am. The next 5 games are the culmination of a whole season but how they go will change how we feel about the season as a whole.
The last 4 seasons we've improved our points total year on year. This year we're slightly short of where we were last year but it's unlikely to be far short. We won the Cup last year, we could retain it. The infamous run is not the be all and end all but it is the best for a long time, none of the other 'good runs' really compare and it has seen us win some big games and it's got us to the Cup Final.
I feel the new level of signings have made a difference, I generally feel the club is heading in the right direction.
I have question marks about whether Wenger can push us on, I'm just less sure that many other people could. Some of the names bandied around on here have crashed and burned after flash in the pan success.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

It's not WUMming for a start - see your own answer above which I accurately predicted. How can I be WUMming if you then go on to type what I said you'd type? Unless you are WUMming yourself?

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Don't flatter yourself, you didn't predict anything, I'd already talked about fine lines and how the cup final result needs to be viewed in context.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Everyone understands fine lines, but it's not so easy to accept being on the wrong side of those lines 90% of the time.

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78.5% of stats are made up on the spot, you know...

[QUOTE=Niall_Quinn;459580]How many attempts to beat Maureen now? It's pretty damn shameful[QUOTE]
Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

And what about our record against a fading Man Utd? Crap.

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It's not been great but we started to make amends in the Cup, let's see what we do on Sunday.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We beat a half-arsed gypo gang of mercenaries, looked good at the time, until everyone else started beating them to put things into proper context.

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Well, they've lost some silly games since but not a single one at home (in the league). Actually they've won every game at home apart from one since we played them, so I don't think you can dismiss that result.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

And now we're going to finish below them. Pretty damn shameful.

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Not really. They've spent a billion quid and will probably finish a few points above us. Before this run we were 12 points adrift of them.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Win, lose or draw the cup, good ref, poxy ref, good performance, bad performance, it's time for Wenger to bow out. Even if Klopp or somebody else came in and did worse, so be it. It's worth the risk on the offchance they'd do better.

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I guess that depends on how bad you think things are now. Last year we finished 4th and won the Cup. If we finish 3rd and retain the Cup then that's not a bad couple of seasons, I doubt fans of many clubs would swap with us.
Our CL record is rubbish. The league record...well, with the billionaires that's going to be tricky whoever is in charge. Now the financial restraints are not there we should be giving them a run for their money (literally) and there are signs we could next year, the new level of signings are making a difference and we have a squad that can compete.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Wenger won't do better. He had all the cards he needed this season and he's still going to fall at the line.Instead of saying maybe the new guy will do worse, how about saying maybe the new guy will do better? Could anyone do worse against our main rivals? Would it be possible?

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Yes, it would be possible.
As for 'the line' it depends where you think the line is. I think it's the Cup Final.
Maybe the new guy will do better but I tell you one thing for free, a lot of the names bandied around on here have subsequently shown they'd definitely have done worse for us. We certainly need to be preparing for a post-Wenger Arsenal but we need to choose with care, there may be some better managers than Wenger but there aren't many.

So in a nutshell, see you this time next year for the same conversation?

:lol: Pretty much.

Let's face it, he's going to be here whatever you or I think.

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Originally Posted by Letters

:lol: Pretty much.

Let's face it, he's going to be here whatever you or I think.

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We all know that. Plus he'll pick his successor.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We all know that. Plus he'll pick his successor.

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If it's either the board, Internet twats ™ or Wenger picking it then I'm fine with that.

Get a room already. :d