Worst possible thing is to play the reserves. It just won't happen, so I think fans that for whatever bizarre reason think it is a good idea, need to face up to that reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
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Worst possible thing is to play the reserves. It just won't happen, so I think fans that for whatever bizarre reason think it is a good idea, need to face up to that reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
If we weren't such a momentum/confidence team last night wouldn't worry me at all as I thought the performance was decent especially from a defensive sense
It seems a bit odd to complain about our lack of firepower when we have known for months this was an issue and we should have gone all out for a striker in the summer.
Giroud just looked out of his depth at this level
I was sitting right in front of that. Really poor from Bif, just bloody have a shot, the angle was perfect for him. Shows how low confidence is right now. Unfortuantley he is showing why all the doubts about him exist, as great as he can be at times he's far too patchy to be considered top class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Giroud would be excellent if he was being managed by someone who knew what he was doing.
I didn't think we were that far apart from Barca last night, and with proper tactics and the right team picked and subs we could have beat them.
Wenger has ingrained in every player that you have to pass the ball a million times and wait for it to end up in the back of the net. No need to shoot.
We have seen it a million times and we have seen it fail 952,000 of them.
Wenger is the main problem with this team and until he goes we won't see any better results.
Would RVP make the same decision in that situation? I partly agree about the coaching but in that situation a striker should really be able to make the right decision. I wouldn’t even say passing was the ultimate sin in that situation. It’s the fact that he was in a dangerous area and chose to pass it right back out of a dangerous area. That’s an intelligence issue. Did he not see the opportunity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
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There has been a lot said about Ox's miss, but Jesus H, what the hell was going through Giroud's mind when with a clear opportunity at goal he lays the ball off to...nobody? I can't figure that out at all. He is the main striker, has an excellent opportunity against the best teamin the world and decides - literally to pass on that opportunity. What striker does that?
That moment stunk to high heaven of some sort of nonsense from a nonsense training ground. The same nonsense that sees the team play backwards when we get to the byline, or play backwards when a shooting opportunity presents itself. Some sort of possession and space and percentage chance of success bullshit, I would think, with all the spontaneity extracted and inspiration siphoned off.Quote:
Giroud would be excellent if he was being managed by someone who knew what he was doing.
There is a very seriously broken part in this machine and it's the one part the owners won't consider changing. Another 5 years of this could be extremely damaging in the long term. If Wenger can't sell his bullshit to another crop of talent that needs to dribble in over the next half decade so we can at least maintain our second class status we could end up going full circle, back to the days of Terry Neill with a billion quid having been squeezed through the club and out to two sets of leeches.
Not enough tippy-tappy, too much pace, not enough negativity. The players are to blame, the manager is blame free. But we almost won, just like we almost signed top strikers in transfer windows.Quote:
‘Barcelona are a great team, we knew that before the game.
'We put a lot of energy in the game, but I believe technically we were very average overall.
‘The regret I have is that once we look like we are dominating the game in the last 15-20 minutes we give the goal away.
‘We had been disciplined defensively. We knew that if we have to keep a 0-0, we keep a 0-0. They are better than us. I believe everybody knows that.
‘I think we could have won the game tonight if we had kept the discipline until the end. And once again, like against Monaco, exactly the same, we were caught in exactly the same way.’
We're 5% from going through :bow:Quote:
Barcelona are "95% through" to the Champions League quarter-finals, says Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger after his side lost 2-0 to the Spanish champions.
Giroud wouldn’t be starting if he played under Pep or Klopp. He’s 29 and doesn’t have the feet or agility to score in tight spaces. Under a long ball coach that plays a direct style, he’d fair better. Most of his chances, best chances come when the ball is whipped in or looped in high. We saw that yesterday where he forced a good save. No idea what he was thinking yesterday with that other opportunity. It can’t be all down to the coaching. Put Sanchez, Ramsey, Welbeck, Walcott, Campbell, Ox in that situation, they’d be going for goal. They’d miss by a country mile :lol: but if the ball is on their preferred foot in that situation they’re looking for goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It boils down to intelligence, confidence and the mentality of the player in the final third. In the first two thirds of the game I believe we coach the tippy tappy stuff. When probing away and looking to create an opportunity, yes, I believe Wenger prefer we stay calm, keep possession and look for the ball. But when in the danger zone your instinct to sense a goal scoring opportunity should take over. It’s like an idiot still looking for the pass when the goal is open and the keeper is nowhere to be found. The players should be intelligent enough to break away from the coached philosophy. Use some damn initiative when it’s that blatant. They’re footballers not programmed robots.
On the flipside, you have cases where Wenger is encouraging players to go for goal. Take Ozil as an example, a player reluctant to shoot. He’s set him a goal target and wants him to go for goal more. With Theo, he’s said he needs to be more aggressive when going forward. I think Ox was set a goal target too. I’ll defend Wenger on this one. I think we sometimes try to hog possession and don’t go for long range punts enough but I also think he has bought players that can’t shoot or are very low on confidence in front of goal.
We know Giroud can shoot, he's bloody good at it. Same for Theo and particularly Ox. Ox had a fantastic range of shooting techniques on him when he arrived here. We know Ramsey can shoot too. We know they can pass and we know they are very good at it when things go our way. It's like anything overcomplicated, doesn't have to be football. When there are 1,001 things to think about before you act then you probably won't act or you'll act too late or in a confused and stressed manner. Our game is way too complicated. Eye of the needle stuff. Very little directness. Too much patience, too much possession.
I believe Wenger has worked the players up their own backsides in terms of whatever it is he wants to see them doing on a pitch. Always the extra pass, why? When you get to the byline, cross the ball, get players in the box. Why do we often see Giroud behind a midfield player when the ball comes in? Why are we famous for having nobody in the box when a cross comes in? Why, when a Theo or Ox or Alexis makes a run into space do they have to check back because the ball has instead gone short, sideways, backwards? Is it too vulgar to hit the ball into that space and leverage the primary advantage of the players we have?
Why do you see Theo or Alexis on the flank with their back to goal waiting to receive the ball short and immediately lay it off, backwards? Why aren't they facing the goal? Why bother having Ozil at all when 99% of our stuff if just triangles up the pitch, triangles back down the pitch?
And then, after all that, we suddenly abandon all posts and rush up the pitch leaving huge holes in the middle and ripping our defence to shreds. Wenger was moaning that last night was the same as Monaco. He was clever enough not to mention that Monaco was like a hundred other incidents we've seen prior to that.
His coaching, his tactics, his responsibility so why is he trying to avoid it? He's just a lousy coach who keeps getting exposed over and over again. The whole history is out there for inspection, why is there still this pretence that Wenger is up there with the top or even average coaches? It's getting like the Rooney myth.