Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

How do you know that? My reasoning is a decade full of bizare formations, players playing out of position, horrible transfer dealings etc. Whats yours?

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Well my reasoning is simply this: despite all those things you accuse him of, Wenger has kept us in the top 4 every year but this one in which we narrowly missed out.
IMO the PL is a more competitive league than La Liga, more teams can credibly win the league, there isn't a duopoly where it's generally Real or Barca winning the league.
And yet you seriously think Wenger could take over one of those sides and they'd struggle to finish top 4.
This is the sort of nonsense which makes it hard to take any of your opinions seriously.

It's not really a worthwhile comparison because Real and Barcelona don't have managers they have head coaches.

Wenger turned down the chance to take over at Madrid in 2004 because he didn't like that system

Would Wenger have acheived what Luis Garcia has with the club in his three years at Barca? Possibly, Possibly not

Would he have done any worse than Gerardo Martino? Again no probably not

Wenger is not especially a great coach, he isn't strong tactically and is possibly one of the most stubborn men in the game. But this idea that he's the worst manager in football or is at least not better than at half the managers he comes up against in the premier league is borne out of frustration nothing more.

But he isn't elite class, he's average or maybe just above.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Well my reasoning is simply this: despite all those things you accuse him of, Wenger has kept us in the top 4 every year but this one in which we narrowly missed out.
IMO the PL is a more competitive league than La Liga, more teams can credibly win the league, there isn't a duopoly where it's generally Real or Barca winning the league.
And yet you seriously think Wenger could take over one of those sides and they'd struggle to finish top 4.
This is the sort of nonsense which makes it hard to take any of your opinions seriously.

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Yes, I seriously do think he would struggle to finish in the top 4 anywhere. That was shown by how miserably he has failed this and last season with a squad (which on paper at least) is as good as any other.

OK, so we've had 20 years of finishing in the top 4 every year in a relatively competitive league where no-one else has finished in the top 4 so consistently. And on only a few occasions did we struggle to.
We have now missed out for the first time, by a single point, and you now think on that basis he would struggle to finish in the top 4 at any club, even one which hasn't finished below 2nd for yonks, is always miles above the 5th placed team, has a considerably better squad than ours and better than everyone else's in the league they compete with bar one other team.

And you think he'd struggle to finish top 4 with them.
OK then.

Objectivity :rose:
Logic and reason :rose:

All I know is Atleti would be the top Madrid side now if Wenger had been 10 years in charge at Marketing. Not that Marketing would have put up with him for more than a season.

The reason he never took the job at Madrid (and jobs at every club in the world as he stated lol) is because he knew there was pressure to deliver success, unlike at Arsenal (that's the norm at big club).

He knew that one season without trophies would mean he would lose his job, something that wouldn't happen at Arsenal where he had a comfortable job, controlling everything with no pressure to deliver success whilst getting paid a fortune.

That's why when he uses that a sign of love for Arsenal you can't take it seriously, he's clearly risk averse, as highlighted by his transfer dealings where he prefer cheap buys that won't be a big deal if they don't work out.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

All I know is Atleti would be the top Madrid side now if Wenger had been 10 years in charge at Marketing. Not that Marketing would have put up with him for more than a season.

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Agreed Athletico Real because Simeone is in a different league to Wenger and few players manages themselves without some leadership and motivation from the manager.

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Originally Posted by Özim

The reason he never took the job at Madrid (and jobs at every club in the world as he stated lol) is because he knew there was pressure to deliver success, unlike at Arsenal (that's the norm at big club).

He knew that one season without trophies would mean he would lose his job, something that wouldn't happen at Arsenal where he had a comfortable job, controlling everything with no pressure to deliver success whilst getting paid a fortune.

That's why when he uses that a sign of love for Arsenal you can't take it seriously, he's clearly risk averse, as highlighted by his transfer dealings where he prefer cheap buys that won't be a big deal if they don't work out.

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It's nice that you know him personally. Surprising too given that you don't seem to like him much.

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Originally Posted by Özim

The reason he never took the job at Madrid (and jobs at every club in the world as he stated lol) is because he knew there was pressure to deliver success, unlike at Arsenal (that's the norm at big club).

He knew that one season without trophies would mean he would lose his job, something that wouldn't happen at Arsenal where he had a comfortable job, controlling everything with no pressure to deliver success whilst getting paid a fortune.

That's why when he uses that a sign of love for Arsenal you can't take it seriously, he's clearly risk averse, as highlighted by his transfer dealings where he prefer cheap buys that won't be a big deal if they don't work out.

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Yes because being under no pressure to succeed was uppermost in his mind after he'd won the title going the whole league season unbeaten.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Yes because being under no pressure to succeed was uppermost in his mind after he'd won the title going the whole league season unbeaten.

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By that time he was not under pressure any more, besides he was heavily linked with Madrid during his losing period as well, he never had the guts to take the job though as he knew what it meant, almost certain unemployment after a year.