Man City vs Arsenal 26.04.2023 Match reaction and player ratings

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Originally Posted by Mac76

don't agree, i think Martinelli, Saka (though he does tend to drift out of games), Saliba, Ram are worthy of consideration, hell I'd even make a case for Trossard

not Partey though, anyone who can dip that far in form isn't eligible

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I love Martinelli but Grealish has been phenomenal this season. He's Keeping Foden on the bench a lot of the time. Bernardo Silva is absolutely elite. Saka simply doest even compete here. Saka doesn't even compete with Mahrez, who backs up Silva. Saliba not even close the consistency required and Ramsdale maybe makes the bench. Trossard is ahead of Martinelli but still not on Man City level. Who from Grealish, Foden, KDB, Silva, Gundagon does he replace? Not a slight on Trossard, at all.

You e absolutely lost the plot on Partey. Just stop posting about him, mate. You're embarrassing yourself.

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Originally Posted by IBK

Fair enough if we recruit both Caceido and Rice but I'm extremely sceptical that we will do so while getting in the necessary top class CB; RB and striker. Jorginho was acquired to fill in for partey IIRC. Alls I'm saying is that behind Partey; Jarginho and (hopefully) Rice, I don't see how we are going to improve on Elneny as a bench warmer...

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Why would we need both of them?

You have Partey as DCM 1 and Caicedo (Don’t like or rate Rice) as DCM 2 and have Jorginho as backup. For the no 6 role that’s all you need

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Ramsdale is not at Edersons level.

Saliba possibly but Stones and Dias are extremely good.

Grealish and Mahrez are also beasts. Saka and Martinelli have mostly been great but there are levels to this here. You’re comparing players who’ve achieved the square root of nothing to proven winners.

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sure no argument with that, but talent-wise i think they are there or thereabouts, although as i say Saka needs more consistency

btw got to say i don't doubt Grealish's talent but i really can't stand the fucker

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Originally Posted by Mac76

sure no argument with that, but talent-wise i think they are there or thereabouts, although as i say Saka needs more consistency

btw got to say i don't doubt Grealish's talent but i really can't stand the fucker

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I think Martinelli is better than Grealish, Bernardo Silva can play on the right but it’s not his natural position so don’t think you’re even comparing like for like with Saka.


But as we know our deal Alba friend has a hate boner for Saka and isn’t particularly fond of Martinelli even though they are our two best players. Partey is our most important player because the standard of our central midfield makes him irreplaceable.

Apart from Haaland who is the best striker in the world currently (and by a clear mile) it is only central midfield where the real gulf in quality lies

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Originally Posted by IBK

Fair enough if we recruit both Caceido and Rice but I'm extremely sceptical that we will do so while getting in the necessary top class CB; RB and striker. Jorginho was acquired to fill in for partey IIRC. Alls I'm saying is that behind Partey; Jarginho and (hopefully) Rice, I don't see how we are going to improve on Elneny as a bench warmer...

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Jorginho will be sold, surely? Was just a stop gap and players like him, on his money, can't be kept around the squad. That's what people like Elneny are for, I'd have though, at least.

Doubt it, his contract is until 2024. I doubt we’d get much money for him so easier to keep him for a year and then he will sod off back to Italy of his own accord.

Would rather have him than Elneny

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Originally Posted by mandela8

Jorginho will be sold, surely? Was just a stop gap and players like him, on his money, can't be kept around the squad. That's what people like Elneny are for, I'd have though, at least.

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Jorginho is a useful squad player. I would keep him. Off topic, why has Arteta given up on ESR? He is better than Viera FFS.

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Originally Posted by Chippy

Jorginho is a useful squad player. I would keep him. Off topic, why has Arteta given up on ESR? He is better than Viera FFS.

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He is but that’s not really a high bar. I’d sell both of them personally.

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Originally Posted by Chippy

Jorginho is a useful squad player. I would keep him. Off topic, why has Arteta given up on ESR? He is better than Viera FFS.

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I'm naw sure he's on squad player money though. I can't see him being kept around...maybe he will and they'll focus recruitment on Xhaka's replacement rather than cover for Partey.

The Teilemans is a funny one. I'm sure he's not short of offers. I know Man Utd fans almost expect him there, which also makes sense.

I don't rate Rice and really haven't seen enough of Caciedo or the Ajax boy Ornstein mentioned as in the 4 (Tielemens wasn't in there).

ESR is just a fitness issue, naw?

We'll keep Jorginho until the end of his contract, we only took him on for 18 months and as Chippy says he's a useful squad player

I'd be tempted to sell ESR, I don't think he's going to make it at Arsenal tbh, too much of an in-and-out luxery player, often gets injured etc

I'd definitely sign Caicedo, he's very good, also Rice as I think he can play furtere forward in the Xhaka role