That is sad news. RIP :rose:
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That is sad news. RIP :rose:
Very sad indeed.
We're not appealing :woohoo:
So he'll probably miss tonight's match and be available for.... the United game :lol:
T shirts at the readyQuote:
"I will carry out the suspension with the resignation of someone who hasn't done anything wrong and who feels extremely upset by the events. I do feel sorry for the fans and for my team mates whom I will not be able to help during the next month. It will be a very difficult time for me."
Wise decision not to appeal I think. That would have prolonged the circus even more otherwise (if that's possible)
They'll have something new to self-victimise themselves over soon enough.
suarez and liverpool statements basically say, he has done nothing, evra is a liar, fa are a joke.
what a joke liverpool have become. if as their statements say, they firmly believe suarez has done nothing wrong are they not appealing?
Because getting someone else to think something is different to thinking it yourself.
Suarez. :lol:
What a moron.
I've just read Liverpool's statement. Weird stuff, no contrition whatsoever. And they infer that because of the charge there is the possiblity more players will do the same thing (I guess they mean make an allegation up of racism). :wacko:
Walcott and Gervinho called me a terrorist.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
8 match bans, please.
:pray:
They are still at it.
SSN saying that basically they feel hard done by now.
Then this peachy statement from Dalglish:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16404151.stm
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Kenny Dalglish has defended Liverpool's conduct during the Luis Suarez affair and insists the full facts have not been made public.
Liverpool will not appeal against the Uruguayan's eight-match suspension for racially abusing Manchester United defender Patrice Evra.
But the player and club maintained a defiant stance with strong statements.
"I don't think we are digging a bigger hole - it is unfortunate we cannot be more forthcoming," Dalglish said.
An independent Football Association commission ruled that Suarez, 24, had racially abused Evra during a 1-1 draw between Liverpool and Manchester United in October.
The commission's report stated that Suarez, 24, had used the term "negro" seven times in around two minutes and claimed he had damaged the reputation of English football around the world with his conduct.
It also criticised the striker for providing "unreliable" and "inconsistent" evidence at the hearing.
Liverpool announced they would not be appealing against Suarez's ban, yet both player and club subsequently issued statements in which they refused to accept responsibility and criticised the way the affair had been handled.
In his statement, Suarez said: "I will carry out the suspension with the resignation of someone who hasn't done anything wrong and who feels extremely upset by the events."
After Liverpool's 3-0 defeat by Manchester City, which Suarez missed because he was starting his ban, Dalglish said: "Luis has made a brilliant statement and we stand by him.
"There are a lot of things we'd like to say and a lot of things we could say but we don't want to get ourselves into trouble. We know what has gone on. We know what is not in the report and that is important for us.
"It is unfortunate that you don't actually know the whole content of what went on at the hearing. I cannot go any further."
Suarez admitted saying the word "negro" to Evra, yet Dalglish argued the Uruguayan's background and nationality should have been taken into account by the independent commission.
"I would have thought that if you pronounced the word properly, you maybe understand it better," he said.
"If you get into asking a linguistic expert, which certainly I am not, they will tell you that the part of the country in Uruguay where he [Suarez] comes from, it is perfectly acceptable.
"His wife calls him that and I don't think he is offended by her."
And Dalglish defended the much-criticised decision by himself and his players to wear T-shirts in support of Suarez at the Wigan match before Christmas.
"If one of your guys was in trouble would you help and support him if you knew it was the truth and you knew it was right?" he asked.
"If they want to show their support for their team-mate, what is wrong with that? I think it is a fabulous statement to make visually of your support for a guy who is endeared in the dressing room."
If theres more to it then why arent LFC appealing? Clearly if they feel that aggrieved then they would be able to defend themselves.Quote:
"It is unfortunate that you don't actually know the whole content of what went on at the hearing. I cannot go any further."
I call bullshit.
Liverpool FC - still supporting racism since Dec 2011.
John Barnes dislikes this :thumbsdown:
I didn't really mind Liverpool as a club until now. Pretty sad the way they've gone about this.
They've always had the victim complex tbh
The whole transcript of his press conference.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...rez-transcript
Childish really.Quote:
Reporter: "You think there is an agenda against Liverpool?"
Dalglish: "No. You said that. I never. You get yourself in trouble, I'm all right."
Wrong Kenny, if it's with someone who you know and are friends with, then maybe, maybe it is acceptable in Uruguay. It is not on on this occasion, in this country. However with the phrases that Suarez is believed to have said, they are racist. Plus, does it really matter if negro is 'pronounced' in Spanish or not?Quote:
Reporter: "Kenny, the wider world is pretty shocked that, if a player can call someone 'negro' and the player who is the victim in this takes offence, that there is no apology or contrition offered from your club."
Dalglish: "I would have thought that, if you pronounced the word properly, you maybe understand it better. I think it was Spanish he was speaking and I don't think you were speaking Spanish there.
Reporter: "OK, if a player calls someone 'negro' [Spanish pronunciation], surely the player who takes offence deserves an apology?"
Dalglish: "Ask a linguistic expert, which certainly I am not. They will tell you that the part of the country in Uruguay where he [Luis Suárez] comes from, it is perfectly acceptable. His wife calls him that and I don't think he is offended by her. We have made a statement and I think it is there for everybody to read. Luis has made a brilliant statement and we will stand by him."
He's a dick.
FFS Olly.
http://www.abload.de/img/shesafirinherlazeroer5x.gif
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I CANT SEE THESE FOR FUCKS SAKE!!Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Also, who knew that Kenny Dalgliesh isnt a linguistic expert??
:haha:
Olly :bow:
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That's the problem with Suarez's defence. It wasn't a nice, friendly situation. It was a confrontation between two rivals. That just there is enough to find him guilty regardless of any mitigation.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Even so, whichever way we defend Suarez there would be criticism. Hell, if we'd ostracised him the same people would be complaining we're treating him harshly. I just hope Terry is punished in the same way (more, actually) if found guilty.
Also, we need new lawyers.
There's nothing particularly wrong with publically defending someone but in Liverpool's case they only did it after he had been punished for it. :blink:
That's the key, it's the authorities on trial now and it depends how they act over Terry. I suspect we'll see a completely different outcome. I must admit, I had no idea "negro" was yet another naughty word the politically correct cunts had added to their speech crime directory. What we desperately need is for them to produce a handbook of PERMITTED terminology so we can all stay on the right side of their fucked up crusade to control what we say and think. Or we could just kill them all, which is my preferred choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xmas Is Boss
I don't think it's solely the word 'negro' that's the reason he is being punished. Isn't he supposed to have said something like "I don't talk to blacks" (in Spanish of course)? I don't think it can be hidden behind PC on this occasion.
What's wrong with that? I mean seriously, if anyone decides they don't want to speak to blacks then that's their choice. Who the fuck else has the right to tell them who they should and shouldn't speak to? This is just looney bullshit from start to finish. We have a million problems in the world and this is the sort of shit that gets the spotlight. Fucked up world.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Well we knows thats BS cos he has to talk to his strike partner Heskey from time to timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Oh wait, thats Carroll. My mistake
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
If you don't want it continuing to get a spotlight then why are you doing your bit and presumably wasting your own time by talking about it on a forum? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Anyway the point is, the FA have committed to a zero tolerance policy on racism. Therefore he gets punished for it. Tough shit, man up. It doesn't seem to have been a problem for anyone else before Suarez, well, except for Big Man of course.
Because the dickheads running this 1984 agenda will take a mile for every inch granted without protest. Mind you, most people are so mind fucked by now they just go along with it by default.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
And why don't the FA take their nose out of shit that doesn't concern them? They should busy themselves teaching referees what football is about, a zero tolerance policy on Phil Dowd would be far more worthwhile. If a crime has been committed then let Evra go to the proper authorities to sort that out.
You think Liverscouse are whining like bitches now? Wait till the big man gets a 1 game ban and retains his England captaincy (again)Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Are you starting your protest today then? And it does concern the FA because it happened on a pitch under their jurisdiction. We all know the FA are generally useless and that's probably why the independent commission was successful and thorough in its document.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The fact is that Suarez has been punished for racially abusing another player.
Him and LFC can twist it all they want, but he pretty much admitted to using the words/names that he was accused of.
Who gives a fuck if its not racist in his country? It is in this country, where he plays, and Evra doesnt come from Uraguay so clearly he found it offensive.
If LFC are going to accept the punishment with no appeal, then they should along with Suarez be big enough to come out and issue an apology and put it all to bed.
All Suarez had to say was, 'I am sorry if Ive offended him, in my country its not considered a racist thing to say, so I can only apologise and I will choose my words more carefully in the future'
along with LFC 'We as a club do not condone racism or racist abuse towards other professionals on the pitch or anywhere else. Obviously there has been some confusion as to the acceptibility of what was said between two players of different nationalities, but we respect the FA's decision and consider the matter closed.'
(Ive just saved face for LFC and Suarez with those two statements)
But instead they have decided to make a mockery of it all and act like they are the victims. It makes them look like cunts tbh. They only have themselves to blame.
This 'shit' does concern them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The fact that the FA are shit when it comes to refereeing is a separate issue that also needs addressing.
The one thing that does seem to have been overlooked throughout all of this is that Patrice Evra is, when judged by any measure, a marauding cunt.
We were more enlightened as kids, stick and stones... Now we're all just a bunch of pussies whinging like fuck when anyone hurts our feelings. Fucking sissy species, at least the dinosaurs had to be hit by a rock to die out (apart from LDGs dinosaurs which are fine).
Sounds good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
Next time I cross a line, I'll give you a shout so you can prepare my statement.
You could do that for others too. e.g. "Sorry to have upset people but although some of my best friends are black, I didn't realise the term 'coloured' would cause offence".
I was very open and candid about that fact from the outset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
One thing I think will have to happen, whether the FA wanted to or not, is that Terry must receive at least the same sentence and if he is found guilty in court, then he will have to lose the captaincy. The press/media would force the issue, especially after all the stuff we have seen/read about Suarez/Evra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
I don't see the problem here.
He was just calling a spade a spade.
Terry will lie and everyone will accept it. Then it's onto the Euros, kerching. Anyway, why would the FA need to be forced into anything by the media, wouldn't they simply apply a set of non-hypocritical, non-bullshit rules evenly without pressure?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPeck