Barclays Premier League - Weekend Fixtures (Saturday 15 - Sunday 16 March)

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You mean the "She canna take the strain" web site?

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It's actually working fine for me now. It seems a lot of their plastics have already abandoned ship.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

Cement his legacy.

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:lol:

But it must sting to watch a total collapse. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm starting to question how good Fergie really was. He had a very good back staff team around him. If Moyes hadn't changed things so much would the results be as bad?

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

The scary thing is it should have been at least 0-5, with United down to 9.

As impressive as Liverpool have been recently, this is more down to Moyes being beyond useless and the players just not giving a damn at the moment.

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Moyes needs to be given time. Some people seem to forget he is Scottish and therefore a great manager by default. He'll keep them up, have no doubts about it.

That was dreadful.

If you're the chairman, how can you justify not sacking Moyes? He's been a disaster and it was always obvious he would be.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

:lol:

But it must sting to watch a total collapse. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm starting to question how good Fergie really was. He had a very good back staff team around him. If Moyes hadn't changed things so much would the results be as bad?

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Ferguson's biggest strength was to get players motivated to attack effectively, all the time. Whether that's through fear or encouragement or by whatever means. Tactically he was never particularly great but he never needed to be.

There was always going to be some teething problems with Moyes, but to just look like flat out midtable shit I didn't see coming.

What a man.

#keepmoyes

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Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on you
Fool me three times, shame on me
Fool me four times, shame on me...
Fool me five times (still playing same system), shame on me...
Fool me six times... oh for feck sake change it please moyes

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Red Cafe not melting down as badly as I thought. I think when you have been Moyes'd you get a kind of solidarity to tough it out until the nightmare ends.

It's been said so many times already, but for the love of god how the fuck did we not beat this shower of shite this season?

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Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico

It's been said so many times already, but for the love of god how the fuck did we not beat this shower of shite this season?

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Or score against them. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

That was dreadful.

If you're the chairman, how can you justify not sacking Moyes? He's been a disaster and it was always obvious he would be.

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I couldn't trust Moyes to compose a side to make the Champions League, no matter how much time he is given. Ok so he did it with Everton but that was a season when the team finished fourth with 61 points, that's nowhere near enough now.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

Ferguson's biggest strength was to get players motivated to attack effectively, all the time. Whether that's through fear or encouragement or by whatever means. Tactically he was never particularly great but he never needed to be.

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Yeah, I agree with that and think Fergie saw the same sort of qualities in Moyes. It's an old way of thinking. He's got it badly wrong and it will take much more than that for a coach to survive in this league.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Yeah, I agree with that and think Fergie saw the same sort of qualities in Moyes. It's an old way of thinking. He's got it badly wrong and it will take much more than that for a coach to survive in this league.

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It's ok to manage in that way when you can command respect from your players but how can Moyes with nothing to back his career up with achieve that from players who have won trophies consistently? Obviously, he can't.

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Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico

It's been said so many times already, but for the love of god how the fuck did we not beat this shower of shite this season?

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That's frustrating. To see Ferguson looking on so helplessly whilst we hand out a complete ass whooping would have been beautiful. Let's hope Moyes is given more time.

Think Fergie saw a lot of Scottishness and post match red wine grovelling advantages in Moyesie. Plus there was a lot of positive pro-Brit media evidence to offset the stunning mediocrity at Everton.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

It's ok to manage in that way when you can command respect from your players but how can Moyes with nothing to back his career up with achieve that from players who have won trophies consistently? Obviously, he can't.

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Exactly. He was on the backfoot before he stepped in the door. He has no credentials. Not a revolutionary mind in football and tactics, has no new philosophy, wasn't a great player so he's got no clout there, no trophies...how can they respect him? What was he bringing to the table?

i don't think you can blame everything on Moyes, clearly he is out of his depth but that team is last seasons champions with fellaini and mata added to the squad. the players, like judas, have failed to perform and gone missing. they have to take a lot of the blame too.

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

i don't think you can blame everything on Moyes, clearly he is out of his depth but that team is last seasons champions with fellaini and mata added to the squad. the players, like judas, have failed to perform and gone missing. they have to take a lot of the blame too.

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Other players are getting in judas' way tbf.

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Moyes is turning in to the less jovial Strachan.

So does anyone think he'll actually be sacked?

They spoke about giving him time but I very much doubt the powers that be expected them to be this bad.

They've lost 9 in the league. He's got to go, sadly.

He's done a good job all things considered. Yes he's lost a few and maybe he can be accused of turning the champions into mid table dross. But.

1- he s Scottish
2- he is Fergies mate
3- the media love his Britishness

On balance he's been fergies Scottish mate on more occasions than not.

It's not even that they're losing, it's that they're losing whilst playing terribly. At the start of Rodgers' time with us we had some pretty poor results, but it was clear that he was getting us to play a certain style. Moyes is just getting the Champions (!) to smash it up field and hope for the best. He got his tactics horribly wrong today but even when everyone could see what was wrong, not least Neville, he carried on regardless.

People said off hand that him buying Mata wasn't a problem because he wouldn't know what to do with him... that's not looking far wrong.

Playing Januzaj and Mata as wingers was just odd; Mata had no chance of getting on the ball and creating when shoved out on a by line, and Januzaj only had glimpses of decency when he managed to get an overlap. Otherwise they were both anonymous and were given the run around by Allen and Henderson. Rooney ran around a bit without actually doing anything, Carrick was a coward. Afraid to do anything himself or take responsibility. There's a difference between keeping possession ticking over and actually refusing to run into 30 yards of space with the ball in favour of a sideways ball to [I think] Evra who had defenders to get past. Fellaini is a bumbling oaf, but he was doing the work of two. Even then, playing two midfielders who can barely run against the likes of Sterling, Henderson and Allen is asking for trouble. They'll run rings round you and won't get tired of doing it. The only thing Fellaini brought to the game was being able to win the headers from goal kicks. It wouldn't surprise me if that was part of the reason Moyes bought him... apart from the obvious panic.
Most of the service to Van Persie ended up being crosses. Shit, aimless crosses. How does he still think this is a viable tactic? Though his only contributions to the match were to smash it into the side netting, when he wasn't flagged offside of course. Little boy etc.

They can whinge about the 3rd penalty all they like, but it made absolutely no difference to the game. And yes I did think it was a flop from Sturridge. But equally Fellaini could quite easily have had one given against him in the first half, Sturridge had one turned down which was the clearest of the lot and Rafael should have been sent off about 8 times. In any case, we did them a favour by getting Vidic sent off. Ferdinand coming on was the icing on the cake. Never have I seen two players so far past it. It's actually quite sad to see. Hilarious too.

He commands no respect from the players. He has no aura with the fans, instils no confidence. It doesn't even seem like he has a plan. Just "we've got decent players, if we just play them all, they'll figure it out"..... as it turns out, no they can't.

Cannot BELIEVE we failed to beat that lot this season :doh:

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Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss

It's not even that they're losing, it's that they're losing whilst playing terribly. At the start of Rodgers' time with us we had some pretty poor results, but it was clear that he was getting us to play a certain style. Moyes is just getting the Champions (!) to smash it up field and hope for the best. He got his tactics horribly wrong today but even when everyone could see what was wrong, not least Neville, he carried on regardless.

People said off hand that him buying Mata wasn't a problem because he wouldn't know what to do with him... that's not looking far wrong.

Playing Januzaj and Mata as wingers was just odd; Mata had no chance of getting on the ball and creating when shoved out on a by line, and Januzaj only had glimpses of decency when he managed to get an overlap. Otherwise they were both anonymous and were given the run around by Allen and Henderson. Rooney ran around a bit without actually doing anything, Carrick was a coward. Afraid to do anything himself or take responsibility. There's a difference between keeping possession ticking over and actually refusing to run into 30 yards of space with the ball in favour of a sideways ball to [I think] Evra who had defenders to get past. Fellaini is a bumbling oaf, but he was doing the work of two. Even then, playing two midfielders who can barely run against the likes of Sterling, Henderson and Allen is asking for trouble. They'll run rings round you and won't get tired of doing it. The only thing Fellaini brought to the game was being able to win the headers from goal kicks. It wouldn't surprise me if that was part of the reason Moyes bought him... apart from the obvious panic.
Most of the service to Van Persie ended up being crosses. Shit, aimless crosses. How does he still think this is a viable tactic? Though his only contributions to the match were to smash it into the side netting, when he wasn't flagged offside of course. Little boy etc.

They can whinge about the 3rd penalty all they like, but it made absolutely no difference to the game. And yes I did think it was a flop from Sturridge. But equally Fellaini could quite easily have had one given against him in the first half, Sturridge had one turned down which was the clearest of the lot and Rafael should have been sent off about 8 times. In any case, we did them a favour by getting Vidic sent off. Ferdinand coming on was the icing on the cake. Never have I seen two players so far past it. It's actually quite sad to see. Hilarious too.

He commands no respect from the players. He has no aura with the fans, instils no confidence. It doesn't even seem like he has a plan. Just "we've got decent players, if we just play them all, they'll figure it out"..... as it turns out, no they can't.

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Pretty much. TBH.

MotD2 on in five minutes.

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Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss

It's not even that they're losing, it's that they're losing whilst playing terribly. At the start of Rodgers' time with us we had some pretty poor results, but it was clear that he was getting us to play a certain style. Moyes is just getting the Champions (!) to smash it up field and hope for the best. He got his tactics horribly wrong today but even when everyone could see what was wrong, not least Neville, he carried on regardless.

People said off hand that him buying Mata wasn't a problem because he wouldn't know what to do with him... that's not looking far wrong.

Playing Januzaj and Mata as wingers was just odd; Mata had no chance of getting on the ball and creating when shoved out on a by line, and Januzaj only had glimpses of decency when he managed to get an overlap. Otherwise they were both anonymous and were given the run around by Allen and Henderson. Rooney ran around a bit without actually doing anything, Carrick was a coward. Afraid to do anything himself or take responsibility. There's a difference between keeping possession ticking over and actually refusing to run into 30 yards of space with the ball in favour of a sideways ball to [I think] Evra who had defenders to get past. Fellaini is a bumbling oaf, but he was doing the work of two. Even then, playing two midfielders who can barely run against the likes of Sterling, Henderson and Allen is asking for trouble. They'll run rings round you and won't get tired of doing it. The only thing Fellaini brought to the game was being able to win the headers from goal kicks. It wouldn't surprise me if that was part of the reason Moyes bought him... apart from the obvious panic.
Most of the service to Van Persie ended up being crosses. Shit, aimless crosses. How does he still think this is a viable tactic? Though his only contributions to the match were to smash it into the side netting, when he wasn't flagged offside of course. Little boy etc.

They can whinge about the 3rd penalty all they like, but it made absolutely no difference to the game. And yes I did think it was a flop from Sturridge. But equally Fellaini could quite easily have had one given against him in the first half, Sturridge had one turned down which was the clearest of the lot and Rafael should have been sent off about 8 times. In any case, we did them a favour by getting Vidic sent off. Ferdinand coming on was the icing on the cake. Never have I seen two players so far past it. It's actually quite sad to see. Hilarious too.

He commands no respect from the players. He has no aura with the fans, instils no confidence. It doesn't even seem like he has a plan. Just "we've got decent players, if we just play them all, they'll figure it out"..... as it turns out, no they can't.

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How can you continue to stick up for Moyes after a performance like that?

Chappers keeping it together well.

Immense control from Suarez to get Rafael's Hand of er God.

ROOONEEEEYY.

That's as bad as it gets by Sturridge. He should be hounded out of football for cheating like that. But he won't be because his name isn't Eduardo and it wasn't actually a pen.

Suarez sacks Moyes.

Moyes coming up :haha:

Troll from Rodgers there. :lol:

Small of Rodgers to defend Sturridge. All managers have to stand up against this so it can be kicked out of the game. Liverpool won it easily, they didn't need to cheat and somebody needs to have a word with Sturridge rather than defend him.

Fuck off Spurs :pal:

ROSICKY!!! :bow:

Ox. :lol:

Dear me, what a miss.