PORNSTEIN has spoken :bow::bow:
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PORNSTEIN has spoken :bow::bow:
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He has no idea either, he admits it. :lol:
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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
My money would be on AMN and Mavraponos to make it as top players too. Holding I think is also capable of being a top CB.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Holding has shown potential but he looks to be too nice and timid from what I’ve seen of him, hope I’m wrong though.
AMN has loads of potential as a DCM, so calm and composed on the ball and doesn’t look fazed on the pitch. Greek fella too, that’s why we need a good defensive coach to come in, we have so many good players who don’t look like they are coached properly.
Hopefully the Allegri rumours are true. Would be very confident of getting back into the top 4 with the tactical mind of a top Italian coach behind us.
Allegri seems to be emerging as the front runner which is very positive news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I agree on getting back into the top 4 with him in charge, he is an elite coach IMO.
Our goal must never be about the Top 4 Trophy again. That's what reduced this club to the state it is in now, which relatively speaking is in better condition than most other clubs but in terms of our own past achievements and the size and potential of the club is totally unacceptable. It can never, ever, ever be about the top 4, or even top 2, again. It must be about Top 1. Always. Title or nothing.
And if we have that attitude Top 4 will be a guaranteed by-product, but certainly not a goal in itself.
The new manager's task must be to win us the title and the CL. All else is irrelevant. If he can't do it then sack him and get somebody else in.
This is exactly how I feel about Holding.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
You are joking right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
No one could this rabble winning the PL or the CL in his first couple of seasons!
If we got in the top 4 next year, that would be a major achievement.
Dont forget that the new Manager is apparently only getting £50m.
We are way behind the top 4 at the moment.
So what? The goal of a club like Arsenal should always be to win. We might not win, we probably won't - although Leicester managed it. But if you are serious about being a "big" club then we don't aim for 4th place. I heard some tool on AFTV claiming Wenger's biggest achievement of all was the consecutive top 4 finishes. A deplorable outlook that revels in failure. The thing that has to change most at this club is the mentality. Wenger made us habitual losers and now the task is for somebody to come in and make us winners. He may not achieve it in the first year or the second, but we need to see progress towards it every season. No more scraping 4th and having bus top parades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
I disagree. I think our squad is good enough to finish in the top 4, or certainly get close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
Our catastrophic away form this year has given us no chance but our home form is good enough to challenge.
BUT, the title is beyond us right now and any new manager should be given some time to challenge.
Quite honestly gone are the days when it was just us and Utd in a duopoly, there are too many sides with too much money for that.
Who knew that 1990 would be Liverpool's last title? We have a lot of resources but City have a net spend of something like £450m since 2014.
We cannot compete with that level of spending. It's not a given that we'll be sweeping all before us any time soon.
Hopefully standards are raised again however we also have to be realistic because this squad needs a lot of coaching done if it wants to compete at the top. I’ll wait and see what the new guy can do and I’ll adjust my expectation levels accordingly. Unless the new guy is a miracle worker and some players have a Salah-like impact, we will remain out in the wilderness for a while yet IMO.
I do agree with the sentiment though, the end goal must be to win the league and CL. It shouldn’t be a pipe dream for a club like us, it should be something we can talk about potentially achieving with a straight face.
The press recently came out with a story about us about making £200m available for the new manager. It's not worth listening to any stories about the club unless someone is making a statement or it's confirmation of a transfer or appointment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
Also, we should be aiming for the Top Spot. That's the point. It's not about what's realistic it's about setting targets and doing our best to get there.
According to the Telegraph and Mirror, Arteta, Vieira and Allegri are the 3 candidates.
Arteta, no Thanks. Allegri, Yes please. Vieira, not too sure.
The way we've set ourselves up, the position is more suitable for a head coach type which Arteta and Vieira would surely be.
The rumoured sticking point with Allegri is that he'd want a lot of money and because he's been so successful in his own right, he'd be reluctant to work with the guys above him.
The fear here is the board quietly accepts the second tier status Wenger has delivered. They could ride out a couple of seasons with a plea to give the new manager time and they'd probably get away with it. The new appointment will reflect the ambition of the board. If we go for a manager with an established track record of success we know the goal is to make progress. Otherwise we can assume the board has as much ambition as Wenger, which is none.
Jardim, Allegri, Conte, pay them what they want and get on with it.
ughhh.
Out of the three:
1) Allegri (works under a similar structure at Juve so I don't buy the stuff about him wanting more control)
2) Arteta
3) Vieira (used to be above Arteta but I had a look at some of his MLS results & performances and they haven't been that impressive tbh).
Not sure why Jardim isn't even a factor (assuming the report). Lack of English?
Arteta - No
Vieira - No
Simple as that.
We need to progress and do it well, re-establish ourselves as title contenders and re-assert our big club status.
This is no time for 'also ran's', maybe's, stop gap's and 'we will see' :coffee:
Also, the Telegraph don't know fuck all either so I am not really that concerned
TBF even Ornstein has admitted he has no clue, the club are doing everything quietly. Allegri though would be a great choice.
it doesn't really bother me who the next manager is as there is no guarantee of success for anyone new, so it will actually just be nice having someone else to moan about when things go wrong. the aim for next season should be to win the Europa league and/or compete for the title up until April/May. I don't expect us to win the league as we have too many defensive and midfield issues to resolve this will take time beyond just bringing in new players.
Exactly. Even just having something different to moan about is something to look forward to.
:lol:
Coaches Peyton, Banfield and Bibbo have left the club.
Here come the Rui Faria rumours now he has left Man Utd (Mourinho really).
Wenger. :bow:
Tearing down the management structures of other clubs with his departure.
Funny nicknames for team buses - at least i assume they are team buses as clearly the club gave up on coaching players some years ago...Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Ornstein:
Manchester City assistant coach Mikel Arteta is one of a number of options being considered by Arsenal as their new manager.
Spaniard Arteta, who made 150 appearances for the Gunners and captained the side, took up a coaching role at City in 2016.
However, the club is not close to making an appointment yet.
Also among those contacted by Arsenal during the process is another of their former captains, Patrick Vieira.
The club remains confident of naming a successor before the World Cup begins on 14 June.
Once a decision has been made by chief executive Ivan Gazidis, head of football relations Raul Sanllehi and head of recruitment Sven Mislintat, the trio will present their recommendation to Arsenal's board of directors for approval.
Wenger will take charge of Arsenal for the final time on Sunday against Huddersfield, after almost 22 years in the role.
Ex-Barcelona coach Luis Enrique has been linked with the job, along with Juventus boss Massimiliano Allegri.
One ex-Arsenal player definitely returning to the club this summer is Freddie Ljungberg. A deal has been done for the Swede to take charge of one of the youth teams on a permanent basis.
Analysis
My sense from speaking to people inside and outside the club is that Arsenal are conducting a very detailed and diligent recruitment process.
Those with direct and indirect knowledge have commended the way in which the Gunners hierarchy are going about their business.
They seem acutely aware of how important a decision this is, but also that it is complex, could well divide opinion and brings with it no guarantee of success.
Their priority is to make the right decision, rather than a quick one, though time is obviously of the essence given the World Cup starts in fewer than five weeks and the transfer window, which opens on 17 May, closes on 9 August.
The favourite for the job with bookmakers and many fans and pundits is Allegri, but Arteta is firmly in the mix, and although these two appear to be the frontrunners, I get the feeling other names are in the frame.
You'd get an easier time from Ornstein & Smough; another article that list everybody as possible.
Well great work.
From what i remember, Not every player got on well with Arteta when he was captain, plus his lack of managerial experience makes him a risky choice.
Some one like Allegri would earn everyone's respect straight away, his personality, track record and winning mentality would be perfect for us.
I'm getting worried about the Arteta idea, the idea that someone completely untried as a manager could do the Arsenal job is ridiculous
We need someone with the track record and stature to give ozil etc a kick up the arse and chop out the deadwood without sympathy
I'm concerned the club are scared of another big ego and will prioritise someone they think they can control, rather than someone who can definitely get us back on track quickly
Allegri says he's not plannimg on leaving Juve - damn...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44105820
It’s going to be Arteta, isn’t it...
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As it has been said elsewhere, Arteta is not the sensible appointment at this time. They've just had season upon season of enmity from the fans, to bring in Arteta at this time is going to bet met with immediate opposition. That's not to say it won't neccesarily work but it's going to make it a lot harder for him from the outset.
Is the returning of the poisonous atmosphere really what they want, is it really what Arteta wants in his first managerial job?
Enrique or Arteta
It's a no brainer really.
So we are bound to fuck it up :coffee:
If it’s Arteta, it’s Arteta.
Nobody should be making it difficult for him from the outset.
I hope it isn’t him, but if it is, he will need all the support he can get.
You're right, it shouldn't but I can't help but think that's what would happen.
We have some deranged supporters amongst the fanbase and I have no doubt if things don’t start well off the bat we will be back to square one.
Anyone not giving the new guy a chance regardless of what they think of the appointment can’t be much of a fan at all.
Of course everyone will give the new guy support, no matter who it is, it goes without saying.
However, if the wrong appointment is made, then that support will dwindle quickly if the results reflect the poor choice.
Surely the board realises that we need someone who has managed before.
Allegri wants to stay at Juve
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...senal-interest