Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm

Cech makes us stronger, there's no doubt about that.
Good signing.

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People who were telling us he was average not so long ago suddenly think Cech is the best thing since sliced bread. He's a good keeper, but nowhere near as good as he use to be, I personally would prefer an younger keeper who's got years ahead of him. Chelsea found Courtois, let him prove himself at the top level and then moved him back to replace Cech so clearly they think his best days are behind him too.

I find it hard to swallow that we're effectively taking on another club's reject.

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Originally Posted by Özim

People who were telling us he was average not so long ago suddenly think Cech is the best thing since sliced bread. He's a good keeper, but nowhere near as good as he use to be, I personally would prefer an younger keeper who's got years ahead of him. Chelsea found Courtois, let him prove himself at the top level and then moved him back to replace Cech so clearly they think his best days are behind him too.

I find it hard to swallow that we're effectively taking on another club's reject.

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Agreed - trouble is many on here have become Wengerised into accepting 2nd best - or mostly 4th best

Surely buying a player who improves the 1st XI is actually a good move? I think people who think the money should be spent elsewhere are probably more Wengerised as buying a keeper should not have an dramatic impact on spending elsewhere. And who cares how much we spend, ticket prices aren't going to go down if we don't spend the money so just do it and move on.

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Originally Posted by Özim

People who were telling us he was average not so long ago suddenly think Cech is the best thing since sliced bread. He's a good keeper, but nowhere near as good as he use to be, I personally would prefer an younger keeper who's got years ahead of him. Chelsea found Courtois, let him prove himself at the top level and then moved him back to replace Cech so clearly they think his best days are behind him too.

I find it hard to swallow that we're effectively taking on another club's reject.

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IIRC, Courtois is partly playing because he basically said play me or I leave.

Chelsea knew they couldn't let him leave. That's part of why he is playing.

The idea should be to groom sneezy until he is ready to take over. Meanwhile he can learn from Cech.

Double post.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

How is that possible? Isn't that tapping up?

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Technically yes but everyone does it I believe.

It'll only be an issue if Chelsea have a problem with it and report us with actual evidence (not newspaper/media rumours) which is difficult to do as transfers are done through several intermediaries these days. You won't ever see Dick Law/Gazidis/Wenger in the same room as Cech until the transfer is officially ratified.

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Originally Posted by Özim

People who were telling us he was average not so long ago suddenly think Cech is the best thing since sliced bread. He's a good keeper, but nowhere near as good as he use to be, I personally would prefer an younger keeper who's got years ahead of him. Chelsea found Courtois, let him prove himself at the top level and then moved him back to replace Cech so clearly they think his best days are behind him too.

I find it hard to swallow that we're effectively taking on another club's reject.

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:lol:

Trust you to find a negative in this.

After De Gea pisses of to Real, he'd comfortably be the second best keeper in the league and he's easily the best goalkeeper available to purchase this window. If that's accepting second best to people ........ then I have no words literally.

In fact I'm not comprehemsively sold on Courtois yet. Talented yes, but he's the got the odd mistake in him and could easily go the way of a Chesney given his age. It's a no brainer from Chelsea to make him number one as he's the future but I could easily see a situation where Cech is the better keeper next season.

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Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico

:lol:

Trust you to find a negative in this.

After De Gea pisses of to Real, he'd comfortably be the second best keeper in the league and he's easily the best goalkeeper available to purchase this window. If that's accepting second best to people ........ then I have no words literally.

In fact I'm not comprehemsively sold on Courtois yet. Talented yes, but he's the got the odd mistake in him and could easily go the way of a Chesney given his age. It's a no brainer from Chelsea to make him number one as he's the future but I could easily see a situation where Cech is the better keeper next season.

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It's not being negative it's fact, 95% of people on her have been saying how he's past it and prone to errors for a few years now, but suddenly now that we're linked heavily with him he's a great addition and is exactly what we need.

He was amazing before his head injury, but he's simply not been the same since, yes he's still a good keeper but he's nowhere near as good as he was.

As for Courtois, he's top class as he proved time and time again for Athletico, it took De Gea time to settle but once he did be proved how good he was, the same will happen with Courtois. As for Chelsea and Courtois, well they could have let him leave if they didn't think he was better than Cech, but they didn't because they thought he was, which clearly shows he was 2nd choice at Chelsea and that they're happy to let him go.

Chesney, I don't really rate that highly, we need a replacement for him rather than someone for him to learn from, he's screwed up countless times especially when under pressure (his performance for Poland in the Euros was a shambles).

Because of his age, Cech isn't a huge step forward, in a few years we'll need to replace him and will have the same problem again.

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Originally Posted by Özim

95% of people on her have been saying how he's past it and prone to errors for a few years now

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Made up stats :bow:

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Originally Posted by Letters

Made up stats :bow:

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I gave up on real stats when I realised they only apply when you're the one using them in a debate.

However bad you may think Cech is, he is still an improvement on the pair we have. Ospina is okay, but wont save us 10 points a season like a De gea or Cortious will. can you imagine where United would have ended last season w/o the Spaniard in goal. Funny that we seem to have forgotten about Martinez. From what I recall, he did quite well in the few games he played for us last season. If Sczezny doesnt get off his high horse and knuckle down. Martinez may be the one to take over from Cech. I hope he gets a run in the CC cup this season.