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17-07-2013, 05:11 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

er no, it was me answering your point of whats stopping him signing those players at that price. if he had 25 million to sign a striker last summer, who could we have signed? i answered that. not rocket science

And you're a football scout? Are you saying Podolski and Giroud were the best we could get afford?

But it goes back to the original point.....we could have spent more on a better striker, right? Funds were there. Who doesn't really matter because all this paper talk about Higuain, Rooney and Suarez is generated from the fact that it's now been made public that we have money to spend.
17-07-2013, 05:11 PM
Harland

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

you mean the theory that i posted, saying there could be something to it but that it wasnt my theory? i felt there could have been something in that theory, thought it could spark an interesting debate so posted it on a message board where people debate such things.

as thinkgs stand, i dont htink we will get higuain, sounds like madrid have been dicks so we now have turned to suarez. guttted we wont get higuain, but if we end up siging suarez instead i wont be too unhappy.

Honestly i'm quite surprised that you are somewhat backing the Suarez transfer.

It would be so much easier to say 'Yeah good, I never wanted him anyway' when the transfer window closes and Sanago is our biggest signing. You probably still would but meh....

Seems like Real Madrid were being idiots indeed, lets see if Higuain does move how much it will be for and therefore we can have a reasonable expectation as to where the buck ends with regards to this deal faltering.
17-07-2013, 05:13 PM
Ollie the Optimist

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

Suarez :lol:

This is so never happening, please come down from the clouds. The only Suarez you're likely to see in an Arsenal shirt is of his distant relatives who's either just out of nappies or going on the cheap.

again, where did i say suarez was happening. i said im gutted we wont get higuain, however replace suarez with another world class striker, and i wont be upset on missing out on higauin. sign no one. and i will be.
17-07-2013, 05:14 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

Yes but you can't ignore how proud he is of getting 4th either, he's often congratulated his players and glorified this achievement, he genuinely thinks this a top achievement.

When it comes to being in the CL and signing players, how does that affect us? We don't sign players of a high enough calibre that that actually matters.

If the guy did everything he could to win I'd understand it more, trouble is he limits us with his strategy and tactics and refuses to see the flaws despite the same pattern appearing season after season.

People don't like to hear it but he has an incentive to achieve 4th and spend little as well, let's not forget what he earns and that by restricting spending it not only allows him to point out how much money he makes the club but also means less pressure on him from the board, since there's little outlay. He justifies his salary and no success by highlighting profit.

I think he gets a perverse satisfaction from hanging on to the coattails of city, utd and the chavs but I doubt he's happy or satisfied at having won nothing for 8 years. I would suspect he feels he's partially achieved his goals, because staying in touch when the spuds, pool and even rpq are spending stupid wads of cash is in fact an achievement. It just doesn't appear much of an achievement when set against our previously high standards. The environment has changed and Wenger has had to deal with a rapacious board as well as the limitless funds at the gypsy clubs. He's done it by playing the averages game which runs contrary to his early years at the club. People say he's stubborn and doesn't change. I think he's changed a lot. Our shit football is evidence of that.
17-07-2013, 05:15 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

again, where did i say suarez was happening. i said im gutted we wont get higuain, however replace suarez with another world class striker, and i wont be upset on missing out on higauin. sign no one. and i will be.

It's the fact you entertained the fact we might sign Suarez. It's just not happening, not in real life anyway.
17-07-2013, 05:17 PM
Harland

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

It's the fact you entertained the fact we might sign Suarez. It's just not happening, not in real life anyway.

Works out fine doesn't it? Seems like the board and Wenger (by association) aren't living in real life.
17-07-2013, 05:18 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

It's the fact you entertained the fact we might sign Suarez. It's just not happening, not in real life anyway.

#]

Suarez and Rooney were never, ever happening. Not 100% sure why we got involved with that. I think the worst but can't prove it.
17-07-2013, 05:18 PM
Ollie the Optimist

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

It's the fact you entertained the fact we might sign Suarez. It's just not happening, not in real life anyway.

is there anything in your life that you look at in a posistive way or is everything a negative?
17-07-2013, 05:21 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

is there anything in your life that you look at in a posistive way or is everything a negative?

No my fault you just don't like to hear the truth :lol:

You constantly entertain these football manager transfers which to anyone with any sense are never going to happen and yet you complain when someone picks you up on it, be realistic when has Arsenal ever paid out big money for transfers?
17-07-2013, 05:22 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Harland

Works out fine doesn't it? Seems like the board and Wenger (by association) aren't living in real life.

It's perfect, plus we tried our hardest this summer didn't we, I mean look at those big bids for strikers. Blasted clubs just got greedy!
17-07-2013, 05:22 PM
Harland

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

is there anything in your life that you look at in a posistive way or is everything a negative?

Anything in your life you look at realistically?

Cos by all accounts here you stand for the type of fan that Wenger and the board consistently dupes and he's able to continue do what he's doing.
17-07-2013, 05:22 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

#]

Suarez and Rooney were never, ever happening. Not 100% sure why we got involved with that. I think the worst but can't prove it.

I think that's the reason we got involved in that to be honest.
17-07-2013, 05:49 PM
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

:lol: ollie

you need to work for arsenal, you're exactly the type of person they're looking for. hand in a CV next time you're there.
17-07-2013, 06:02 PM
Cripps_orig

Ollie as Wengers replacement?
17-07-2013, 06:15 PM
Ollie the Optimist

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

:lol: ollie

you need to work for arsenal, you're exactly the type of person they're looking for. hand in a CV next time you're there.

Anyone particular reason you have ignored what I've said amd just made a pointless dig?
17-07-2013, 06:17 PM
AKBapologist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qUg8...ature=youtu.be
17-07-2013, 06:18 PM
Master Splinter

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

treason you have ignored

Letters won't be pleased.
17-07-2013, 06:22 PM
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

Anyone particular reason you have ignored what I've said amd just made a pointless dig?

oh relax you big poof. we've got nothing to gloat about in terms of transfers at this bleedin club so the least we can is have a bit of banter on here to pass time.
17-07-2013, 06:31 PM
Master Splinter

Geoff Arsenal ‏@GeoffArsenal

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Arsenal monitoring the situation at Cfc regarding Mata & Hazard. Rumours are that one or the other will be surplus to Jose's plans.

Mata's coming home.
17-07-2013, 06:32 PM
GP

Geoff :lol:
17-07-2013, 06:34 PM
cricketsi

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

Geoff Arsenal ‏@GeoffArsenal

Mata's coming home.

:lol: If only. There's been a lot of stories about Mourinho not being a fan of Mata though. Strange if true.
17-07-2013, 06:35 PM
GP

I think it's got something to do with Mourinho being a massive twat.
17-07-2013, 06:36 PM
McNamara That Ghost...

Mourinho likes his big strong midfielders. Wouldn't want to upset his son Essien after all.
17-07-2013, 06:42 PM
GP

If he's relying on Essien then he's dumber than he looks.
17-07-2013, 06:42 PM
Cripps_orig

Mourinho may be the best manager in the world but getting rid of Mata would be great news for Chelsea's rivals.

Time he came home
17-07-2013, 06:43 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

Mourinho likes his big strong midfielders. Wouldn't want to upset his son Essien after all.

Essien :lol:

I remember when people thought when he was one of the best in the world.

To me he's always been the Ghanian Robbie Savage
17-07-2013, 06:50 PM
Harland

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Originally Posted by Cripps

Mourinho may be the best manager in the world but getting rid of Mata would be great news for Chelsea's rivals.

Time he came home

A bid of 6 million with potential add ons?
17-07-2013, 06:57 PM
AKBapologist

Shitty confirm signing of Negredo.
17-07-2013, 06:58 PM
Master Splinter

Suarez + Mata + Scott Dann = We Vin BPL.

Make it happen, Wenfer.
17-07-2013, 07:02 PM
GP

Wan Matter :bow:
17-07-2013, 07:04 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

Shitty confirm signing of Negredo.

FFP :bow:
17-07-2013, 07:04 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Harland

A bid of 6 million with potential add ons?

Sounds like a bid we would make
17-07-2013, 07:14 PM
Harland

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Originally Posted by Cripps

Sounds like a bid we would make

I'm ITK, didn't you know? ##
17-07-2013, 07:17 PM
Niall_Quinn

If we really have bid £6mill for Mata it means the Suarez deal must be off. No way would we sign a player whose name begins with S if we are under-bidding for Mata.
17-07-2013, 07:25 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

If we really have bid £6mill for Mata it means the Suarez deal must be off. No way would we sign a player whose name begins with S if we are under-bidding for Mata.

Sounds like the kind of logic we would take in buying a player.
17-07-2013, 10:26 PM
Master Splinter

United bid £60m for Balenaldo:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...united-2060737

Suarez almost home:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...suarez-2060488
17-07-2013, 11:00 PM
KSE Comedy Club

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

you ignored this key quote didnt you? yeah thought so

Well what fucking difference does that make?!?

We don't sign the best players anyway!
18-07-2013, 12:49 AM
Cripps_orig

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Arsenal and Napoli have been told Real Madrid forward Gonzalo Higuain, 25, will cost £37m.
Full story: The Times (subscription required)

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger says Manchester United vice-chairman Ed Woodward's exit from their pre-season tour of Australia to accelerate a move for Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas, 26, is a waste of time.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Higuain isn't coming

Hopefully Cesc isn't either
18-07-2013, 09:53 AM
Seymour Butts

I have to say I get the feeling that Wenger really is pinning his hopes on signing Rooney. He is not normally this vocal about being able to afford a player and is sending out a clear message that he is prepared to break the bank to get him. I initially thought this was pie in the sky but I believe he is genuinely going to make every effort to sign him - obviously Chelsea will trump us in the money stakes and Rooney being the character he is will def go for the money so I still think its a no go - just hope we are not putting all of our eggs in one basket as usual
18-07-2013, 09:57 AM
Ollie the Optimist

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Originally Posted by Seymour Butts

I have to say I get the feeling that Wenger really is pinning his hopes on signing Rooney. He is not normally this vocal about being able to afford a player and is sending out a clear message that he is prepared to break the bank to get him. I initially thought this was pie in the sky but I believe he is genuinely going to make every effort to sign him - obviously Chelsea will trump us in the money stakes and Rooney being the character he is will def go for the money so I still think its a no go - just hope we are not putting all of our eggs in one basket as usual

Isn't the case that usually with wenger, the players he talks loudest about are the ones he has least interest in. If he's talking about Rooney, he doesn't want him IMO, he's using him as a smokescreen.

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