Transfer News, Rumours and Bollocks Thread

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Kos will be superman if he can play will being left out at the same time

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What?

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Originally Posted by Syn

Wilshere is in a different category from all of these other youngsters. He always has been.

Wenger's style of management is different from other managers. Other managers are more proactive - they play players that are in form and are quick to drop under-performing players. Wenger's approach is: 'This is my best team. Whenever they are fit, they will play. Another player can only break into the team if they prove they are bloody brilliant'.

When Senderos was playing well, Toure got straight back into the team after coming back from the ACoN a few years back. When Fabianski/Almunia were fucking up time and time again, and everyone (well, me, at least) was calling for Szczesny to be given a chance, it took Wengers ages to give him a go. Alex Chamberlain seems to impress every time he plays for us or England U21's...under-performing players like Walcott aren't dropped. Wilshere was an exception - he was put straight into the team last season because it was blatantly obvious he was bloody good. Otherwise, Wenger doesn't do 'experiments'...he has what he thinks is his best team, and he'll stick with it.

I'll bet you £3974598375493 that Koscielny - definitely one of our best players in recent weeks - will be left out for the Norwich game and Kos-Verm will play.

In the case of Coq, he has played well - but Wenger won't give him chances purely based on that. He needs to be outstanding to get more chances. I can understand him wanting to leave.

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Fair enough, but it bugs me we are just getting back on track as a team so some little bitch has to pop up and say - what about me, me me?

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Originally Posted by Syn

What?

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You said kos will be left out but Kos-Vermy will play

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

You said kos will be left out but Kos-Vermy will play

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What?

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

You said kos will be left out but Kos-Vermy will play

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Think about it for just a minute. If Kos is left out then how can Kos-Vermy play? DOH!

Charlie :pal: :doh:

Charlie, you're better than this. Get it together.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

You said kos will be left out but Kos-Vermy will play

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Ah, right, yeah.

I meant that Mertesacker-Vermaelen will play.

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Originally Posted by Syn

Ah, right, yeah.

I meant that Mertesacker-Vermaelen will play.

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You just ruined what was going to be a long drawn out wind up! What have I ever done to you?

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Originally Posted by Syn

Wilshere is in a different category from all of these other youngsters. He always has been.

Wenger's style of management is different from other managers. Other managers are more proactive - they play players that are in form and are quick to drop under-performing players. Wenger's approach is: 'This is my best team. Whenever they are fit, they will play. Another player can only break into the team if they prove they are bloody brilliant'.

When Senderos was playing well, Toure got straight back into the team after coming back from the ACoN a few years back. When Fabianski/Almunia were fucking up time and time again, and everyone (well, me, at least) was calling for Szczesny to be given a chance, it took Wengers ages to give him a go. Alex Chamberlain seems to impress every time he plays for us or England U21's...under-performing players like Walcott aren't dropped. Wilshere was an exception - he was put straight into the team last season because it was blatantly obvious he was bloody good. Otherwise, Wenger doesn't do 'experiments'...he has what he thinks is his best team, and he'll stick with it.

I'll bet you £3974598375493 that Koscielny - definitely one of our best players in recent weeks - will be left out for the Norwich game and Kos-Verm will play.

In the case of Coq, he has played well - but Wenger won't give him chances purely based on that. He needs to be outstanding to get more chances. I can understand him wanting to leave.

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That's one way of viewing it, another is to view other managers as reactive if they drop underperforming players. Proactive would be to drop them before their form dipped. I have no idea what all other managers do tbh.

Wenger's philosophy may be seen as too overprotective. Knowing the importance of confidence, the threat of getting dropped might be too much pressure to perform for their fragile minds.

I notice Arshavin's been effectively busted down from first choice.

Appropos of this, Sir Chesney, made noises about leaving, immediately bagged a bumper contract, grabbed his chance when handed it, albeit through injury.

Coq's no first teamer, does he think he can offer more than the incumbent 3? If not, why should he be picked? The enormous pressure to get results isn't exactly conducive to blooding an inexperienced kid in a squad already over-populated with CMs.

It's also worth remembering that Wilshire was about to go out on loan before injury gave him his chance. In the games he got, he made himself undroppable.

Coq needs to either:
A) wait his chance (difficult this season given the resources in front of him) and be absolutely blinding when he gets it.
B) Go on loan (do rules allow him to leave on loan any point in the season?)
Or C) he can go in Jan like he's threatening to, if he can't handle the wait.

I'd prefer B) but also, m'eh.

I think Coquelin wanted a loan so he can play first team football. Don't think he's a trouble-making type.

But yeah, he shouldn't speak out.

Footballers should all STFU at all times.

Apart from Szczesny.

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I notice Arshavin's been effectively busted down from first choice.

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And he's bitching about it in the papers today. It must be a pain being a football manager, having to look after so many over-aged kids. All these players know what they have to do if they want to play regularly - play well. They don't do that and then they bitch. That Gordon Taylor bloke could be doing something more useful than trying to worm as much money out of the game and into players' pockets as possible. We need somebody who has a voice and can stand up and say shut it bitches.