The next manager..

You can judge his team selection on Sunday however, that was just plain awful and misguided to say the least, you don't have to be Einstein to know who your best players (an who you shouldn't play - Xhaka) are and a number of those playing weren't. There's this weird culture at Arsenal to seemingly ignore the reality of what has been happening in the preceding period, it's kinda odd, it really comes across as not knowing the players or the club, which is odd because Ljungberg has been around a while.

If he'd won he could have made his point it was the right lineup, but he didn't he drew, against a team nearly at the bottom of the table, so not exactly a glowing start against one of the weakest teams around. In contrast at the other end of North London they've won 3 on the bounce since the new manager came in.

Personally don't want him as manager regadless of what he does, so hopefully we can conclude our business finding a manager promptly so that we can move on with some fresh ideas/players.

Think we've ignored good advice from external sources for too long at Arsenal, maybe just maybe some of them know what they're talking about and we don't judging by our performances in recent years.

Arsenal fans can't keeping making excuses for incompetence now surely.

They sacked Emery on Friday. There was no opportunity whatsoever for a training session by Sunday. You need time to plan for those and to see what works. You also need to take account of the relative fitness if the players. You cannot make wholesale changes on a Saturday and expect them to gel on Sunday.

This is not fantasy football. There is no quick fix.

Anyone arriving at a conclusion over the suitability of team management when someone takes over a team and has 48 hours to field a team, is being completely unreasonable.

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They sacked Emery on Friday. There was no opportunity whatsoever for a training session by Sunday. You need time to plan for those and to see what works. You also need to take account of the relative fitness if the players. You cannot make wholesale changes on a Saturday and expect them to gel on Sunday.

This is not fantasy football. There is no quick fix.

Anyone arriving at a conclusion over the suitability of team management when someone takes over a team and has 48 hours to field a team, is being completely unreasonable.

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I would agree with you on this but unfortunately it's no different to what Emery has been doing since the start of the season and Freddie should have learnt by now that it doesn't work.

He has had no time to put his ideas across or make any sort of impact with the team, that is a given, however, picking a team of players (worse than Emery's?) and doing virtually the same things as he did really wasn't what most people were expecting.

Had Emery still been in charge, he would have been absolutely slaughtered for putting that out and the subs he made were baffling.

It's not unreasonable to suggest if you do the same thing as before then you can't expect a different result. We have been here before with Wenger.

Just because Freddie is an Arsenal Legend, it doesn't make him exempt from any sort of criticism especially when we are in the situation we are right now.
The best defence I have for him is that he was being naive in what he chose to do.

Also by the same token, I don't personally think he is the right man for the job - we need someone completely different who will take the squad by the scruff of the neck and knock seven bells out of them so they start to remember who they are playing for and what they are paid stacks of cash for each week!

Freddie still gets fans full support whilst he is in charge, but he has been with Emery and the squad since the summer too, and he really needs to think differently for the next game on wards if he has any hope of getting results.

Doing the same thing again will prove to be disastrous and you don't need to be an expert working within the game to see it and know where we are going wrong.

I would like Vieira brought in with Pires and Freddie alongside and Bergkamp as DoF.

why not bring in Sol to teach the defence and he can play to show them how its done.

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I would like Vieira brought in with Pires and Freddie alongside and Bergkamp as DoF.

why not bring in Sol to teach the defence and he can play to show them how its done.

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Umm.. no. Can we get out of our romance for the invincibles and instead focus on personnel who will actually change the mentality of this club?

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Umm.. no. Can we get out of our romance for the invincibles and instead focus on personnel who will actually change the mentality of this club?

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ok Dyche, Alladyce, Benitez they will change the mentality.

I think we are too snobby as fans for the next managerial replacement... people laughed when Rogers was linked and now in hindsight it might have actually been a good appointment.

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ok Dyche, Alladyce, Benitez they will change the mentality.

I think we are too snobby as fans for the next managerial replacement... people laughed when Rogers was linked and now in hindsight it might have actually been a good appointment.

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Oh dear, you are having a mare' aren't you :lol:

Even though it would be a huge psychological hurdle for Freddie to take. We need those type of old school managers to come in even as a consultant. Id like to see Keown brought in as a defence consultant. Dont know what Mertesaker will be telling any of our current defenders, he was distinctly average as a player. I shudder to thing what George Graham would do coaching our defence. He would tear those dimwits apart limb by limb.

This is where the current hierarchy must earn their money. They must see the defects we have as a team and bring in a manager who has a track record of ironing out such lapses. This is not the time for romantic notions of glory. The building has structural defects, Do not employ an internal decorator to fix the problem.

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Employing Wenger worked initially, but the guy had a massive advantage of knowing all the best players in French football at a time when the golden generation was coming through, that advantage no longer exists, we all saw how it went from 2006 onwards, not well.

What does Arteta have that makes him a decent candidate, what evidence is there he'd be a good manager, at least Wenger had managed before and achieved something, players with no management experience have no place managing a top club as their 1st experience of management, it would be a complete gamble based on no evidence he would be any good, if they do choose him, it would once again prove how incompetent these people are and how small time we are, not even good enough to attract a decent manager who has actually managed.

IMO Arteta is a prime candidate to flop, reason being he's been overhyped before he's achieved anything and that usually doesn't end well, this isn't the time to gamble on some nobody, it's time to get someone in who's been tested.

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Please name me all these great managers that we can't attract?

The game of football isn't filled with great established managers . Either old stalwarts or young managers breaking through.

Unless we are getting an elite established manager. I say let's go for a young and up n coming manager. No more retread types.

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Please name me all these great managers that we can't attract?

The game of football isn't filled with great established managers . Either old stalwarts or young managers breaking through.

Unless we are getting an elite established manager. I say let's go for a young and up n coming manager. No more retread types.

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Allegri, Ancelotti, Simeone (could have had Mourinho), these are all managers we could attract, but of course it depends on our ambition. Rogers I'd take as well, his record speaks for itself.

If you wanted to go for younger less experienced, then the likes of Vieira, Nagelsmann not the likes of Arteta with zero management experience and only his pals to vouch for his apparent ability as manager.