The next manager..

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Originally Posted by The Unaibomber

They sacked Emery on Friday. There was no opportunity whatsoever for a training session by Sunday. You need time to plan for those and to see what works. You also need to take account of the relative fitness if the players. You cannot make wholesale changes on a Saturday and expect them to gel on Sunday.

This is not fantasy football. There is no quick fix.

Anyone arriving at a conclusion over the suitability of team management when someone takes over a team and has 48 hours to field a team, is being completely unreasonable.

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don't agree - there were some obvious things Freddie could have done differntly involving players who've had a fair amount of game time this season

I don't think we had the players for a back three tbh so the lineup could have been for example:


Leno

AMN Chambers Luiz Tierney

Torreira Guendouzi

Pepe Ozil Martinelli

Auba

You might not like that lineup but it shows what Freddie could have done instead of picking fuckups like Xhaka and Mustafi who a lot of fans hoped would no longer play a part, and it sent some very negative signals about where Freddie might take us

If Freddie doesn't take a very different approach tomorrow i'm not even going to bother turning up, there's no way i'm standing in the cold watching players like the ones he fielded

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Originally Posted by Mac76

don't agree - therre were some obvious things Freddie could have done differntly iunvolving players who;ve had a fair amount fo game time this season

I don't think we had the players for a back three tbh so the lineup could have been for example:


Leno

AMN Chambers Luiz Tierney

Torreira Guendouzi

Pepe Ozil Martinelli

Auba

You might not like that lineup but it shows what Freddie could have done instead of picking fuckups like Xhaka and Mustafi who a lot of fans hoped would no longer play a part, and it sent some very negative signals about where Freddie might take us

If Freddie doesn't take a very different approach tomorrow i'm not even going to bother turning up, there's no ways i;m standing in the cold watching tossers like them

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I personally would like to have seen this lineup from midfield up:


- Auba - Laca

Martinelli - Pepe
-Ozil

-Torriera


Torriera sits in front of the back four and does the job the footballing world knows he is good at.
Ozil is free in front of him to create and can pass out to either of the wings or foward to Auba & Laca.
Pepe and Martinelli provide pace and can attack or create & also cross in to the strikers.
Auba & Laca feed off each other and link up best when they are being fed from the midfiled /wings.

Defence is another matter entirely but I believe this is our best attacking line up

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Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang

I personally would like to have seen this lineup from midfield up:


- Auba - Laca

Martinelli - Pepe
-Ozil

-Torriera


Torriera sits in front of the back four and does the job the footballing world knows he is good at.
Ozil is free in front of him to create and can pass out to either of the wings or foward to Auba & Laca.
Pepe and Martinelli provide pace and can attack or create & also cross in to the strikers.
Auba & Laca feed off each other and link up best when they are being fed from the midfiled /wings.

Defence is another matter entirely but I believe this is our best attacking line up

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sure it's good, i guess it's relying on keeping the ball a fair bit and also of the makeshift back line coping with a fast norwich attack, but if it comes down to us being able to score more goals than them itt's not a bad answer!

Totally agree, it wasnt hard to pick a better lineup, Torreira is actually very good when played in his natural position, just look how he plays for Uruguay. The central defence should have as few of Sokratis, Luiz and Mustafi as possible and Martinelli should start and perhaps Pepe could as well.

Tierney should 100% have started as well, Ljungbergs lineup was abysmal and for me if you can't get the basics like that right there's not much hope for you, for those people saying it's only his first game, that doesn't matter he's been at the club working with Emery all season he should be able to pick a decent team.

For years Arsenal fans have been making excuses, there's something that you can't make excuses for, the lineup is certainly one of those as was bringing on Saka (which stinks of favouritism because he's worked with him) when he's not been great this season and we have Martinelli who has impressed in most games and Pepe who cost us a lot of money and has done more than Saka.

Wenger has offered to talk to Ljungberg if he needs assistance, he just can't keep out of the clubs affairs even now it seems, whatever we do taking advice from Wenger would be a terrible mistake, it took us long enough to get rid of him.

Is it possible to get George Graham as a defensive consultant? We all rave about the great defenses he built, so why not bring him as a special consultant to straighten these c*nts out? He will definitely get the attention of the defenses because of his achievements with Arsenal and other teams he has managed.. he is considered highly throughout the club. Surely we can bring him in for a couple of months!? He'd be cheaper than us buying a VVD (which is something we wont do any way)

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Originally Posted by Özim

Allegri, Ancelotti, Simeone (could have had Mourinho), these are all managers we could attract, but of course it depends on our ambition. Rogers I'd take as well, his record speaks for itself.

If you wanted to go for younger less experienced, then the likes of Vieira, Nagelsmann not the likes of Arteta with zero management experience and only his pals to vouch for his apparent ability as manager.

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I am not too sure why Vieira is okay with many fans? What has he achieved as a manager that we tend to think he is someone we should go for? If we are okay with him, I dont see why we shouldnt go for Arteta (who is highly rated by other managers).

If we had to go for a newer manager, why not go for Erik Ten Hag? This dude has transformed Ajax recently, and I would love to see him do something similar with us.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

I am not too sure why Vieira is okay with many fans? What has he achieved as a manager that we tend to think he is someone we should go for? If we are okay with him, I dont see why we shouldnt go for Arteta (who is highly rated by other managers).

If we had to go for a newer manager, why not go for Erik Ten Hag? This dude has transformed Ajax recently, and I would love to see him do something similar with us.

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He did a decent job in the US as manager and did ok last season as well with Nice who are a small club. Arteta has never managed, he's only rated by people who know him (his friends basically) and what are they suppose to say, that he just picks up the cones? They're obviously going to rave about him, their friendly with him,

Ten Hag could be an option although he won't fix the defence, Ajax are poor defensively.

My choice would be Allegri or Simeone or a manager who likes counter attacking footbal, I don't really care much for pass pass football, if we can find a manager that gets us to play counter attacking football I'd be happy.

Rogers seems to be good at that so not against him, he's not a popular choice but his record is pretty decent and he did a great job at Liverpool IMO.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

Is it possible to get George Graham as a defensive consultant? We all rave about the great defenses he built, so why not bring him as a special consultant to straighten these c*nts out? He will definitely get the attention of the defenses because of his achievements with Arsenal and other teams he has managed.. he is considered highly throughout the club. Surely we can bring him in for a couple of months!? He'd be cheaper than us buying a VVD (which is something we wont do any way)

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Not sure this will ever happen, he was sacked because of the bung scandal after all, as we know Arsenal tend to think they are morally superior so things like this won't go down well.

He was a great defensive coach though, he's 75 now as well so probably enjoying his retirement.

Never thought Arsenal could sink so low in such a short time. Nothing will change until the Kroenkes sell to someone who actually cares about Arsenal rather than how much money they an make.

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Originally Posted by Özim

He did a decent job in the US as manager and did ok last season as well with Nice who are a small club. Arteta has never managed, he's only rated by people who know him (his friends basically) and what are they suppose to say, that he just picks up the cones? They're obviously going to rave about him, their friendly with him,

Ten Hag could be an option although he won't fix the defence, Ajax are poor defensively.

My choice would be Allegri or Simeone or a manager who likes counter attacking footbal, I don't really care much for pass pass football, if we can find a manager that gets us to play counter attacking football I'd be happy.

Rogers seems to be good at that so not against him, he's not a popular choice but his record is pretty decent and he did a great job at Liverpool IMO.

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Have to agree.

My first choice is Allegri & his 8 or 9 backroom staff that he wanted as he is a winner and they will be a clean sweep on the dross we've got behind the scenes right now