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Do you think it's different this time?
I mean, this sort of thing happens all the time, but this does feel different.
By "this sort of thing", the police kill a lot of innocent white people too although it does disproportionately affect black people.
There is a race issue but there is also a police brutality issue and that's all wrapped up in an issue of police having to deal with a public who are largely armed.
definitely the gun culture doesn't help, though our own police don't have that excuse and you still get incidents - and i agree it's not always racist, look at the manslaughter of Ian Tomlinson
but i think racism's still a big issue, not least in the way an complaints etc are handled
anyway i think it's great the way it's really taken off - for example all UK radio stations are off social media and some are broadcasting special material:
https://radiotoday.co.uk/2020/06/rad...ckout-tuesday/
also i love what this sheriff did: https://eu.freep.com/story/news/loca...rs/5299589002/
I don't get why music is taking this opportunity today to say....nothing.
Twice as many whites are killed by cops.
The disproportionate aspect comes from general stop and search, drug convictions - blacks are far more likely to be subject to these.
The race divide comes from the left and is cultivated by the left. Decades sowing racial division to lock-in a victim voter class. And they let those people down every time. Dementia Joe said it just the other day, you're not black if you don't vote for him. That's the default, arrogant assumption of the left.
Whatever the left accuses you of, that's what they are doing themselves.
It’s appalling that this sort of shit is still happening but I think it shows that racism will never, ever be eradicated.
left man bad
For the time being.
The assumption being sown is that blacks are being gunned down all across America by police. Not true.
What IS true is that blacks are gunning blacks down all across America. Something like 10x the rate at which whites kill blacks. Whatever levels of racism genuinely exist, when you have violent communities that have been plunged into poverty and despair by a succession of divisive and destructive policies, the police are going to react differently than if they are policing a leafy suburb. This is obvious.
I just wonder how much of a spike in Covid these protests could cause.
A lot is being held off due to this.
Sony are postponing their PS5 reveal so they can step back and allow more important voices to be heard. Sounds like they don't want to be speaking up about it to me.
Also, the government are withholding releasing a report why it is that BAME are adversely compromised more from COVID-19 because it will be in bad taste so says a Sky News source.
Both instances seem like talking bollocks to me.
:haha:
https://newsthump.com/2020/06/02/don...med-black-men/
Orange man bad :lol:
SOME black Americans don't think so. The picture being painted is of blacks huddled in ghettos being abused by the man, and now they have snapped at the injustice of it all. It's a story that leaves out people who happen to have dark skin but have made their way in society and live productive lives. Do THEY think America is racist? Nobody ever asks them. All you hear from are fuel-pouring media pundits and gangbangers, or lawyers from deeply racist organisations posing as social justice campaigners.
Urban black communities weren't always broken. Divorce rates weren't always sky high, drug abuse wasn't always the norm. Gang warfare wasn't always the main pastime. Gary Webb, among others, did great work on explaining how black communities were plunged into crisis, deliberately. The fruit of those decades is being reaped now.
Simple stories in the news about poor black man (porn actor, bouncer, knew the cop for years) and wicked white cop (bouncer and knew the victim for years), poor oppressed, enraged community (what DID Obama do for them, other than make their healthcare even more unaffordable?), it plays effectively in an election year. If by some miracle Dementia Joe does somehow win it, everything will calm down and it will all go back to the normal that the left has inflicted on people for decades. Justice in name only will be won, but fuck all will change for the so-called beneficiaries. You give those people real opportunity and they'll vote the other way. You keep them trapped in a vicious cycle and tell them constantly the white guy is to blame and you can tap them every 4 years. Same with Hispanics, illegal immigrants, any minority community. Keep them divided, make them the victim, collect the votes, ignore them the rest of the time.
Meanwhile, chuck a bunch of cops in there to keep things as quiet as possible until the next election comes around. Can you imagine having to work those places every day? The cops are going to end up as mentally scarred as the poverty-stricken, hopeless people they are supposed to police. It's unbelievable when you see the devastation at the heart of so many US inner cities, and I'm not talking about riots, I'm talking about all the other days. It's about time there was a proportionate response, or any kind of response, to those problems from the social justice politicians that have been running the shitshow for so long.
Yes, but as WMUG has pointed out there are far more than twice as many whites as blacks in the US - you love a good "per capita" stat...
Right. So an issue I see here is that black people are disproportionately affected because crime is linked to poverty and black people are statistically poorerQuote:
The disproportionate aspect comes from general stop and search, drug convictions - blacks are far more likely to be subject to these.
I don't think there's any inherent difference between the races in terms of propensity towards crime or violence.
One thing I don't think helps (he says, veering into controversial territory) is that black people see themselves as black. I don't think white people see themselves as white, and I don't actually think many white people see black people as black. I identify with my gender far more than I do with my race - because men and women are fundamentally different in a way that I don't think black and white people are.
I have a FB friend who is a "person of colour" as she likes to say and bangs on about these issues all the time. I'm not saying these issues don't exist but seeking equality while seeing yourself as separate feels counter-productive.
That's fair. Treated white how?
That's not been my experience in China although I've only been there twice on a couple of business trips and didn't really interact with locals other than colleagues. Never had an issue in India either. Obviously you get people trying to rip you off because you're not a local but you'll get that in Europe too.
And I'd suggest in the UK a lot of people are treated differently because of their nationality even if they're white.
Which I'm not saying is OK but it's not all about race, and not every misfortune that befalls a "person of colour" is because of their race either.
Also. The ongoing protests...what are they protesting about?
Is their point that racism is bad?
I mean, yeah. Agreed. But what laws do you want changed? Aren't there already laws against discrimination?
If they're hoping for attitude change then do they think people with racist views will suddenly think "hey, they're right, i should stop being racist!"
I'm not clear what they're protesting for. What are they trying to change and how do they think protesting will bring about that change?
They're protesting against a system that never punishes the injustices against them or enforces the legislation you speak of
they want the next disciplinary tirbunal / judge etc to remember what happens if black people are on the wrong end of biased decisions again and again
But the policeman has been sacked, arrested and charged.
I do shudder to think what will happen if he's acquitted.
Was supporting Blacks Out Tuesday yesterday but it was ruined by a bunch of cunts who were going on about that bloke in the news.
https://twitter.com/brianklaas/statu...02480794488835
Orange Man Bad
Peaceful protestors are peacefully murdering people now. For peace and justice.
What are these "protests" supposed to be about again?
These things always bring out the complete dregs of society. Hijacking something worthwhile and turning it into a shit show that will only fuel the hatred and prejudice they oh so want to eradicate.
D___d D__n
P_____k U_______d
Fill in the blanks using just the truthful, impartial, mainstream media.
Because black lives matter.
Don't they?
Police kneeling in front of vermin at Downing St today.
WTF is happening here? All it would take is a few bursts to make that problem go away and, as a bonus, clear up a thousand future problems in the process.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06...1201828541.jpg
Why is anyone kneeling to these scum? You can't reason with these zombies, they are already dead in the head. You don't kneel when a rat infestation hits your house. You don't kneel when cockroaches raid your kitchen.
WTF? Somebody do something about this right now or at least let me have the tools to do it myself.
Those cops should be sacked. Fucking hell. If somebody is breaking into my house, last think I need is some faggot copper turning up and kneeling. We're not allowed to defend ourselves, so says the state and the pack of zombies that endorses it. Instead, we have THESE to defend us? LOL.
Btw, I don't give a shit about that druggie who died. Nor does anyone else, of course - but the game must go on.
I do care about coppers who abuse their authority, and I am happy to see the cop in question has been indicted. And his wife has left him too. Every cloud.
But am I going to pretend I can about some drug addict to the point I need to get up and protest the injustices we see in the handful of nations that don't discriminate? Or listen to punks wearing tees applauding the biggest, shittiest, racist hellhole on the planet (bar Saudi of course) - China?
Fuck of there then, the lot of you. Take the black low-lifes with you (take all the low-lifes with you) and leave us the people of colour, or better yet, the people who don't make a big issue of colour.
Black man bad
Without this fuss there's no question he'd have been acquitted
Just look at what happened here with Tomlinson - they had VIDEO of that cop attacking him, when Tomlinson had his back to him, and the c**t still got away with it
And Tomlinson wasn't even black, he was juat considered less valuable than the reputaion of the Met