Worried about the future

With Citeh affirming their intentions with the FA cup and 3rd place this season they will undoubtedly spend shed loads. Chelsea have Abramovich, Man utd are as strong as ever and Fergie beong given free reign to spend according to the Guardian. Liverpool will also be strengthening as will the Totts.

Us on the other hand have had our worst season under Wenger, have half our squad wanting out and yet the manager is as unwilling as ever to spend given his recent comments. This all with the backdrop of fan club disconnect and disillusionment being as high as ever as well as Kroenke/Usmanov struggle.

I'm worried about the future of the club and as pessimistic as I've ever been. This summer is absolutley crucial and Wenger has to get things right but I really have doubts as to his ability to rectify the persistent problems in the team. Is there anything to get positive about??:crying:

Being quids in saving on two memberships and not wasting a ton of money watching a bunch of overpaid lazy fucks every two weeks. :good:

See the mindless optimism thread. :geek:

I only worry about the future when I feel we have a chance of achieving something, only for things to not quite work out as hoped. I no longer expect anything whatsever from this team and that absolves me of any feelings of worry.

Unfortunately with Wenger in charge this is what we have to look forward to, IMO we could compete as it's not just about money after all they can't buy everyone. The problem is we won't buy quality and don't work on the basics either...it's all about 5 yard triangular passing, kids and money making.

Thing is evben with our collapse we were better than Spurs and LOLerpool. I cant see them being able to improve their first 11's without some serious spending, we however could get better in for relatively cheap.

The medium to long term we are in a great position, in the next couple of seasons that are a slight worry

Feel that it's a tipping point summer too. If early and desicive action doesn't happen soon we could slip in to some nutty vortex of doom.

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Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo

Thing is evben with our collapse we were better than Spurs and LOLerpool. I cant see them being able to improve their first 11's without some serious spending, we however could get better in for relatively cheap.

The medium to long term we are in a great position, in the next couple of seasons that are a slight worry

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I think Liverpool can improve, Dalglish has started to get a great team spirit together (without really spending money, lost Torres brought in Carroll) and he's got money to spend and isn't scared to spend it.

Think Liverpool could be very good next season.

Spurs will buy players they always do and without the CL to distract them will be more focussed in the league. As it stand we're playing for 4th place IMO and without signing some quality and getting back to basics it's very possible we could miss out on that.

Maybe in the extra long term we will become a successful team, but the same was spoken about several years back, the reality we're in now, is the "long term" spoken about back then. It just hasn't worked out and whilst I don't doubt the foundation for potential success the club has, I doubt whether Wenger is the guy to deliver it. I really don't think he is good enough anymore to mange this team to a trophy.

Not really worried tbh, Aw knows that he must do all he can to strengthen the squad. Problem with al th other clubs spending money, you don't want aw not to spend and use the others as an excuse as to why we did poor if we do so again next season.

I think with half the deadwood seem like leaving and seeming like we may be getting in quality next season may not all be bad.

Why are you worried about the future when we sell-out week in week out? Yet another champions league place delivered by Wenger - something most other teams would kill for

I don't think merch sales are a problem either

We have a lot further to fall, both football and business wise before things start getting really worrying

Having said that I think Wenger should leave

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Originally Posted by Ironing

Why are you worried about the future when we sell-out week in week out? Yet another champions league place delivered by Wenger - something most other teams would kill for

I don't think merch sales are a problem either

We have a lot further to fall, both football and business wise before things start getting really worrying

Having said that I think Wenger should leave

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If there isn't significant improvement in the summer we won't get CL football next year.

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Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies

If there isn't significant improvement in the summer we won't get CL football next year.

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Why? We'll still be better than liverpool and spurs regardless

And even so, I would imagine that kind of scenario to be more of a blip than the standard from then on... or rather, I would hope

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Originally Posted by Ironing

Why? We'll still be better than liverpool and spurs regardless

And even so, I would imagine that kind of scenario to be more of a blip than the standard from then on... or rather, I would hope

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Liverpool will improve in the summer no doubt. Plus I think if they had Dalgliesh all season instead of starting with Woy and having such a bad time of it they would have finished above us this season.

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Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies

Liverpool will improve in the summer no doubt. Plus I think if they had Dalgliesh all season instead of starting with Woy and having such a bad time of it they would have finished above us this season.

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Yup agree with this, he's turned it around you can see the players are much more united and have more fight about them. Once he gets a few players he wants in they could be very good.

I expect us to qualify as usual next season but I think we're more likely to drop out of the top 4 than win the title anytime soon.

This summer is going to be so long...Nasri-gate, Cesc off, Squad players off, Citeh, Chavs and utd spending shed loads..... :sad:

This summer can't be long enough - I couldn't wait for the season to end and I'm in no rush for next season at all.

i signed up again for next season never in doubt. miss the football already and can't wait for august

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Originally Posted by budesonide

See the mindless optimism thread. :geek:

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I concur.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Yup agree with this, he's turned it around you can see the players are much more united and have more fight about them. Once he gets a few players he wants in they could be very good.

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I don't really agree, he got them to about where a squad that good should be, nothing more. Yes they had a bad start but the mid-table is so crap and tightly bunched you don't need to do much to finish near the top of that group of teams. Even then they could have finished 5th but fluffed their lines and lost to Spuds at Anfield and finished below them. Kenny did nothing special.

It will be harder top 4 next year but that isn't Wenger's fault. Chelsea and now City clearly have far more resources than us. Utd have Fergie who is just brilliant. Those 3 will be the top 3 again IMO so there's only one spot left in the top 4. I'd say that's between us, Liverpool and Spuds. People shouldn't write us off in that little battle, people have written us off before and for all the disappointments of late Wenger has never failed to deliver CL football. This isn't the first time I've seen it said we'll slip out of the top few, we never have before under Wenger and while it is harder now because of Chelsea and now City buying their way in I still fancy us to finish 4th.


All that said I'm not worried about the future 'cos I don't massively care if we finish top 4 anyway. The CL isn't that exciting till the latter stages, it's become too regular, too routine, too bloated and filled with European minnows to be that interesting.

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Originally Posted by Injury Time

if you fancy IT let me know :good:

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Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)

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Well now you're living a lie off the market :sulk:

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Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)

I still fancy us to finish 4th.

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Hoo-fuckin-ray.

A lot depends on what people are expecting for the future. If the only acceptable future is a team that wins trophies every season, then the future is most likely bleak without changing the team that is supported. If, however, the future involves supporting Arsenal F.C. irrespective of success, then the future continues to be positive.

I expect our obvious weaknesses which have been around for years to be fixed.

If that happens and we still dont win a trophy then fair enough.

However if Wenger continues as he is then he can go fuck himself tbh

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

then the future continues to be positive.

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positive....there will aways be AFC. I am sure that's the objective of even wycombe fc. Hehe

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Originally Posted by budesonide

positive....there will aways be AFC. I am sure that's the objective of even wycombe fc. Hehe

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Very true. The fundamental question is why does someone support a football team?

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

Very true. The fundamental question is why does someone support a football team?

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Most people support it coz of family or the location they live in. A lot who dont stay in England are probably glory hunters or people who just dont want to join the bandwagon of Utd/Chelsea/Real/Barca. I support it coz as a child I could watch highlights of FA cup on Abu Dhabi TV. I loved the gun in Arsenal's symbol... I have supported them since then. Why I became so passionate about them is because everyone in our locality that played football had milan, roma, Juventus (Italian clubs are big in the middle east) or Brazil national team jerseys. I just wanted to be different and I played CF, so Wright appealed to me.
The older I got, the more I watched the team, it just stayed and right now, this is my club... its going through a crisis IMO but it will remain my club- with AW and his bunch of cunts or without them!

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Originally Posted by Ironing

Why? We'll still be better than liverpool and spurs regardless

And even so, I would imagine that kind of scenario to be more of a blip than the standard from then on... or rather, I would hope

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Ironing the new king of the Mindless Optimism Clique:bow:

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Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over

Ironing the new king of the Mindless Optimism Clique:bow:

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I'm 100% Wenger out tbh

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

Very true. The fundamental question is why does someone support a football team?

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

Most people support it coz of family or the location they live in. A lot who dont stay in England are probably glory hunters or people who just dont want to join the bandwagon of Utd/Chelsea/Real/Barca.

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the way I read a lot of posts on this board (e.g., letters, gary) is that it isn't really about whether to support another team instead of Arsenal. It's that the endlessly frustrating experience of supporting Arsenal makes them less interested in football, period.

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This summer can't be long enough - I couldn't wait for the season to end and I'm in no rush for next season at all.

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I was the same. Desperate for the end of the Season, needed a break from all things Arsenal; however, I'd forgotten just how ridiculous Arsenal close-seasons are with players out etc so now I already can't wait until the end of the transfer window! Roll on next season!

I refuse to believe that Wenger simply doesn't spend the money. I believe that the move has impacted on our finances more than the ****ing board would have you believe. Add to that the concurrent rise of the Chav and Manc money whores and you have a serial recipe for the demise of this club. I'm scared of the future...I really am.

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Originally Posted by Sirjackofwilshere

I refuse to believe that Wenger simply doesn't spend the money. I believe that the move has impacted on our finances more than the ****ing board would have you believe. Add to that the concurrent rise of the Chav and Manc money whores and you have a serial recipe for the demise of this club. I'm scared of the future...I really am.

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We should have enough for a single splurge of spending, but it feels/looks like we have some serious liquidity problems atm. Overall though, we're fucked in the long term if we don't have a good season next year and I just don't see that happening with clichy and nasri leaving this season.

think we are going to have a cracking season, win the league and the FA Cup........so thats enough about the Arsenal Ladies team now for the men........

the way we conduct business on the transfer market this year will have a lot of influence on our coming season,

how much we re-coup for our departures and how we invest that money is vital for success and confidence in the club at all levels

Tim Payton on Talksport explaining how we're financially fucked - long term, sports contracts that are about 20-40mill less than they should be. Unable to offer more in wages to retain stars, can only spend what we make and vunruble to any rich club picking off any player they wanted as long as this remains the case.

Seems like a vicious cycle of losing players, falling down the league, getting less money (through deals etc), charging the fans more, losing more players etc etc etc.

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

Tim Payton on Talksport explaining how we're financially fucked - long term, sports contracts that are about 20-40mill less than they should be. Unable to offer more in wages to retain stars, can only spend what we make and vunruble to any rich club picking off any player they wanted as long as this remains the case.

Seems like a vicious cycle of losing players, falling down the league, getting less money (through deals etc), charging the fans more, losing more players etc etc etc.

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At the mo, totally agree, can see it happening. I really belive the glory days of the recent times are over.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/tra...best-price-him

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...mir-Nasri.html

Makes sad reading. From todays telegraph.