Fact. We need to get rid of this guy and get a proper striker in.
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Fact. We need to get rid of this guy and get a proper striker in.
The first post in the Arsenal debate :)
On topic, yes we should. But there are plenty more that are ahead of him in the queue to be shipped out.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Tbh I'm sick of most of them.
It was about time someone said it, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesy bites
Bag o'shite. Vinger do the necessary.
Seems as good a point as any to agree with to get the new account up & running.
Wenger is shit too
Great player
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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Maybe, but not a great footballer.
his first 3 months were good but he lacks consistancy, I say give him one more year
He might be a 'playa' though. Remember the silhouette in the Independent super injunction article a while back? Was obviously Chakma, that horrific hair-gelled atrocity could be spotted from a mile off.
Harsh... Chamakh was doing the business for us while RvP was out... I just don't think that since RvP returned that Cham was given any chance to prove himself... He will come good next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
you need to be a good player to come good, and a good player he certainly is notQuote:
Originally Posted by irishitaliangooner
Chamakh is the least of our problems. Expected him to get between 10-15 this season and thats what he got,
Job done id say. He'll be better next season.
The problem is that when he is given a chance, he never gives the manager a headache for the next game. Hernandez at United forced Berbatov out of the team due to several cameos. You don't get that with Chamakh or Bendtner, when they come on we resign ourselves to the likelihood we're not going to get the goal we need.
Wouldnt disagree with that. Chamakh is a better starter than as a sub coming on. I think he'll come good though. If Wenger had the balls to play Chamakh and RVP upfront, we'd be better off.
Hoping he gets a good pre season under his belt, scores a few v Austrian pub teams and then bangs them in at the start of the season and grows from there.
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Originally Posted by Van The Man Persie
Considering it's his first season in the prem, and the chronic lack of suppy from the wings, he has had a good first season.
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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Van The Man Persie
i think he is an improvement on bendter and happens to be out of form. For personal reasons...
Well we have a simple choice, stick with this guy - who for me is the a player so unsuited to this league it's painful to watch, or go and get that striker we've needed for a long time. Somebody who will just stick the damn ball in the net, even if it's an ugly scrambled effort. If he's been playing badly because of personal reasons then it's safe to say he's unprofessional. Arsenal have been paying him, are we a football club or a care centre? Probably don't answer that given the last 6 years.
I like the boy. He lacks a lot of confidence, but who doesn't in this team? Best thing for him would be second row for Barbarians on Sunday. He'll know what a scrap's about afterwards and might know the meaning of contact sport in these Isles. That might persuade him to stick his head in where it hurts and be a bit more direct in future. Well you can hope...
Get rid of Bendy and bring a reliable finisher in
Chamakh can be back-up
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...riker-marouaneQuote:
After a topsy-turvy debut season for Arsenal striker Marouane Chamakh, the Moroccan insists he can improve his fortunes in the new campaign.
The attacker began last season in stunning form, netting 10 goals in his first 17 starts for the north London outfit following his move from French side Marseille and looked a fine stand-in for the injured Robin van Persie.
However, after the Dutchman returned to action, the 27-year-old Moroccan failed to maintain his scoring momentum and featured less and less in Arsene Wenger’s plans as the season progressed.
As the new season draws nearer, though, Chamakh insists he will not be repeating such a turn in form and that he will not suffer second season syndrome.
"I think this season will in fact be easier," he told the club’s official website.
"I understand both the football and the group better, and I now have many friends in this team. So I aim to keep improving and to make a big contribution.
"Your first pre-season is always difficult, you have to accustom yourself to new training and make new friends, but we’re all together and everything looks fine."
The Arsenal players return to the Emirates this weekend following their pre-season tours to Malaysia, China and Germany, with the trip to Asia having been a stand-out moment for the striker.
"I think it was a good, new experience for the entire squad," he said.
"It was surprising to see the number of fans Arsenal have over there and I think it proved to us what a big club this is – people across the world demand that you do well.
"For us it was good to spend time in a different culture, while the supporters could watch us in matches and training, and see a lot of the club.
"Germany was a bit different. There were fewer supporters around and the training was harder both for us and the staff.
"But we played a good match against Cologne and had some great facilities there, so we’re happy with how it has all gone."
Didnt want to start a new thread. Agree with most of that. Chamakh is the least of our problems. He'll come good
Chamakh haters :haha:
I don't get why you like this guy when he's scared of goal, he went half a season where he barely had a shot on goal and complained about being tired on top of that.
Not the attitude of a player who's hungry to play and desperate to show his worth.
You also say you want us to get a striker (which I agree with) and yet if he was able to get the goals we wouldn't need one.
Ignoring the being scared to shoot claptrap and going to the other points. Sure he was tired having never played in England before. Its called adjusting which he feels he has now hence he thinks it will be easier. We do need a striker to play alongside Chamakh when RVP is out for his annual 3 month injury. Yes Chamakh fell away 2nd half of the season but who bar RVP didn't? Don't forget he hardly played regularly either. Doesn't he have the CL record of most consecutive games scored in? He has the talent and I sure as hell don't give up on players after just a season.Come on Zimm, I'd have thought you'd have learned from the Adebayor shockers you had and would be willing to give this guy a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
We haven't seen a cripps v zimm debate for fucking ages. Old school. Get it on lads. :popcorn:
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Originally Posted by LDG
Chamakh is shit.
nuff said
Garbage player. He better get some confidence in front of goal otherwise we’d be better off keeping Bendtner.
Was so disappointed when I first saw him play. I knew he wasn’t a prolific goal scorer but I thought he’d at least create chances and open up defences with his hold up play and ‘trickery’. He’s not even the bulldozing marauding type either. He’s a big guy but is so timid. He makes no use of his size. Heskey is terrible in front of goal but he at least makes use of his size to trouble teams.
He also goes away to the ACON so that’s another minus against his name.
Awful player. Against Cologne he looked a player hopelessly out of his depth, repeating his post December form. Every time someone passed to him, he inevitably gave away possession, unable to even hold the ball up or lay it off simply.
I seriously hope he doesn't get much game time next season.
It was a pre season game...
They've all been shit during it
Fair enough, and if it was just the pre-season game then of course I wouldn't write him off. But apart from a couple of months at the start of the season, this guy doesn't look Premiership standard at all. You can't have a striker who's so afraid to have a shot and either unable or unwilling to make use of his height to give us an aerial advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
It was more than a couple of months and hes great in the air.
If we rate Arsenal players only on first seasons then i guess Pires was shit tbh. As was Freddie.
Chamakh is fine and the least of our problems. Its a shame all his goals came before Xmas and not spread out over the season but if youre hardly playing, you dont score as was the case after Xmas.
Of course let all Chamakh haters ignore the fact how our season went to shit when he was no longer starting for us. As good as RVP was, hes not a team player.
I wouldnt mind that usually in a 4-4-2 but playing one up front, we need our lone striker to do more than score. Chamakh did and he brought the best out of Nasri.
Not worried about him at all. Not read one justifiable critisism on here yet. Its a shame a poster like NQ who is spot on with most of what he says is so woefully wrong about Chamakh but then as ive said on another thread, not everybody is right all the time and im sure NQ and other haters as well as the people who backed Chamakh were lining up to suck his long Moroccan cock back when he was scoring, winning penalties etc.
Same shit was said about Ade. We all saw whats happened with him. Has gone on to play for Real
Terrible player but if he can prove me wrong, I'll gladly shut up about him. But around this time last year when he played a few pre season games, I could tell he'd struggle against teams that park the bus and wouldn't offer us anything different. I kept hearing people say he'd offer us something different but he went AWOL in the tough games. Couldn't even offer anything in against lower league sides in the cup games.
Good in the air? He was bloody useless when we had corners or needed a man on the box to drive in a header when we couldn't pass our way through the defence. He better sort himself out this season.
You do realise that we dont have any fucker who can take a corner or a set piece?
And our crossing from open play is abysmal at the best of times so its a wonder Chamakh or anyone for that matter scored any with their head at all.
Sure, he can be better but nowhere near as bad as people making him out to be. People are even saying Bendtners better :doh: which is the ultimate insult tbh
A terrible player who scored goals for fun in the CL? ok then...
There was no causality between Chamakh's disappearance from the first team and our pathetic performances in (most of) the second half of the season. In fact, we only fell apart in March, and were doing relatively well in January and February, by which time Chamakh had already been relegated to the bench. I think RVP's performances last season were overrated, but if Chamakh had started in the second half of the season, we'd probably not even make the UCL qualification spot tbh.
Some would say not making the CL would be a good thing as Wenger might have gone by now :ninja: