NQ for Arsenal Chairman"tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
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NQ for Arsenal Chairman"tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
I know the guy is probably not particularly pleasant and I have got no time for the oligarchs and the way they got their wealth in Russia. However the fact is that the guy, according to the Sunday Times Rich List, is richer than Abromovich and in the top five in the UK. Bearing in mind that we havent won anything for 7 years and are going to be competing with the stinking rich Man City owners next season, I think its mad that this guy is still sidelined. What are we trying to prove? He is buying shares privately and is clearly desperate to have some sort of meaningful input yet the board continue to sideline him. And we continue to win fuck all.
Good.
He can fuck off and hopefully die.
In the sarlacc pit.
Yeh I know, i spelt his name wrong- it was a typo !!!
Pathetic reply. PatheticQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Not as pathetic as wanting that jabba looking gangster anywhere near our club.Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
Our board is made up of Old Boys. Literally.
They won't want his sort.
Oh right, like the stinking rich owners of clubs across Europe arent gangsters?
Get rid of PHW and co and bring him in, we might have some money to spend on some decent players at long last then. The current bunch are dinosaurs without a clue on how to run a successful club on the pitch, all they care about is money.
Pretty much, it wouldn't be a bad thing for us to get some investment on the playing side, he has the money and has already stated he thinks we should invest so why not.Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
People stuck by this board who are basically taking everyone for a ride and don't give a toss what anyone thinks, they got Kroenke who isn't interested in investing (what's the point in him) and backed that...we need a proper investor will to put his money where his mouth is, this guy seems to be the answer IMO.
Look, as I said, I dont like the guy like I dont like any of the Oligarchs. I also dont like the Glazers much or the owners of Man City. But we are competing against these guys. We have one of the richest men in the world who owns a third of our shares who we are totally igonoring. AND WE NEVER WIN ANYTHING
Of course they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
I don't want any part of that.
Problem is the current board are more interested in lining their own pockets than having a successful team, he has so much money that this wouldn't be an issue, just like it isn't for the Russian down the road (incidentally I haven't seen him disappear into the sunset as many claimed he would do many years ago).Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
The sooner we get rid of PHW the better, the guy and his cronies are dragging us down.
Well it probably isn't going to happen now, not with the threat of FFP (whether it turns out to be real or not is moot). If it ever did, it's not going to be reckless spending, without selling.
I think there will be ways round that, the clubs will get creative and find loopholes...we have missed the boat somewhat but I don't see the merits of keeping the board we have who have not only shown immense greed but also proved they don't give a damn what the fans think or say.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
korenke has money so we don't need the russian but Stan won't put the money in unless he has control of the club thats the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
Id not mind the russian if he could assure us he'd have whats best for the club in his intrests but i don't think he does.
The Russian since he has been at the club has had the chance to give us money for transfers etc if he wanted too. But he did not.
Eh? He's not going to give us money without a controlling interest in the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Kroenke is majority shareholder with 62%, if he was going to invest he would have by now, the guy isn't interested he's a business man interested in making money from his investment without pumping money in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Usmanov isn't going to invest when he has no say over anything, why would he, it would be foolish to.
Pretty much, why would anyone do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Kroenke on the other hand has no excuse.
No Just get rid of PHW and co and let stan run the club his way with his rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Thats why i said if he wanted too. I suppose he'd only do that if he knew he'd make a return on his investment.
He knows nothing about football, he controls the club as he has 62%, fact is he's not interested in getting involved or putting money in. There's a good reason PHW and co wanted him on board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
No one would just hand over 50m and say do whatever you want with it and I'll keep my nose out. Makes no business sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
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Originally Posted by ItsMe
Well no Stan has already said he won't invest in the team etc till he has full controll and why should he just because he only the most shares means nout.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
he'd want to know he had full controll before he made such commitments.
Thats why i said if he wanted too. not saying he would or should.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I doubt it, certainly not in our case. It'd be fairly obvious why we're suddenly posting losses! If we could get rid of a lot of the dross then it would free things up but how likely is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Other clubs like Citeh strangely are ok because they only need to show they're actually working their way to at least breaking even - look at Chelsea, their losses are still massive but they're smaller year-on-year; in our case we're a lot more hamstrung.
Lets not say its just the board wanted him majority of the fans did too and did the AST think he was the better option and i think they still do, None of the fans wanted the russian in as he seemed trustworthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
IMO untill this thing is sorted this club will be a mess. Both don't want to sell their shares and neither will back down.
Many are.Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
And they can fuck-off as well.
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
We won't have the money - the oligarch will have the money and we'll just be passengers in an oligarch dick measuring competition.
:lol: The board don't give a toss what the fans think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Given the way football's going, there's no point trying to assume the moral highground and keep Usmanov out. I'm not a fan of the oligarch's either, but we have a choice of either stagnation or accepting Usmanov and his investment, so that we can return to challenging for trophies again. In any case, I don't think our Old Etonian board members or Kroenke are any better than Usmanov tbh. They don't have any interest in winning trophies, surely seeing a return on their investment.
Pretty Much.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Well we don't have the money now either, the club is owned by a number of people..there's not a huge difference. At least this guy is willing to put his money where his mouth is, Kroenke isn't and I'm sick of having a board who won't invest, but also take the fans money and don't give a sh*t what they think.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
At least this guy would be putting something in and trying to make us successful again.
No board does tbh and rightly so.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Thats down to the fans they are not forced to give thier money of they don't like this regime we all know what the board is about but fans still make that choice because they love this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
They have the choice to stopp paying if they want too.
I agree, I'm not a fan of Oligarch money either, our board take the p*ss though and are just in it for what they can get....what do the fans get out of this? Better to have an owner who gives something to the fans in terms of signings than a board who don't and couldn't give a toss what they think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
That's rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
It's not that simple is it, clearly Arsenal fans won't do that, fact is our board treat the fans like dirt....it's sad that people just accept it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
The part in bold - I agree with entirely. Despite the presence of the oligarchs, this Club could have - in fact should have had two nailed on title wins if it had invested it's resources that it generated through the fans on the playing side. That this did not happen is pretty damning on the Board and on Wenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
To win those titles, we did not need Usmanov's money - and I don't believe we ever will need his money. What we need is an owner and a Board who are willing to maximise use of the resources the Club generates without a need for financial doping.
Yeah you have a point the way they speak to people well PHW is wrong, partly why i cancelled ny red membership cause i saw the way the club was going.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Look at those fans who pay for season tickets and don't turn up for games these are the types who let the board get away with it.
But i think this is where fans need to stop themselves been treated by mugs by cancelling tickets etc.
but they won't.