Top 4 are
4th - Sir Chesney
3rd - Samir Nasri
2nd - RVP
First is announced tomorrow.
No idea who it could be
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Top 4 are
4th - Sir Chesney
3rd - Samir Nasri
2nd - RVP
First is announced tomorrow.
No idea who it could be
If Wilshere isn't player of the year, I'll go support Stoke.
Ach - its a bit frustrating to have to click on links - and they don;t work anyway. Why not just list them? :good:
Of course :doh:
Completely forgot about him
Says something that our best player is someone with piss poor end product.
Here we go... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
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Originally Posted by Nasri Scoreng
Do you mean goals or goal assists/killer passes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Im a big fan of Sir Jack. The player not the poster that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
But his end product is very poor. Add goals to his game, cut out the tippy tappy shit and hes the best CM in England
Ta - nailed on Wilshere. And whether or not people think he merits the hype, for me he gets there on spirit and attitude alone. Boy's done very well in leapfrogging Denilson; Diaby; Rosicky into the MF in his first senior season.
Goals mainly. Not sure how many assists hes got but i cant imagine its too many either.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesy bites
Yeah I'd agree with that, though he has been playing pretty deep, plus with Song thinking he's the next Messi, he's had to cover the defence a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
RVP should have won it by a distance.
Fucking love Jack but he's overrated by default.
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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
It depends on where he plays. If he's not an attacking CM (and he hasn't been for us), then it's unfair for him expect goals (although you'd have expected him to get more than he has). If Cesc goes and Wilshere plays a more attacking role, I'm sure he'll get goals. He seems to be one of those types that doesn't have much trouble adapting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Whenever hes in the last 3rd, he rarely shoots. Ok this is an Arsenal problem and not just him but sometimes when the opportunity for a shot comes then he has to take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Y'mean with his passport being local? It's gonna happen I guess but I haven't seen too much OTT stuff apart from the usual 'saviour of football' crap, he genuinely is the most talented Englishman for a while and really has revitalised our midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Got to agree with this, RVP has been very good and our best player. Wilshere's done well for his 1st season though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I do think he is very hyped but it goes with the territory of being English.
Not sure about Jack being overrated, but I agree about RvP. He kept producing even when the rest of the team went on an early holiday. This is his best year in terms of goalscoring and over an injury shortened season (as normal). RvP by a mile, then Jack then I struggle to think of a name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Interesting that RVP and Szczesny only played half the season really.
Also, Sagna woz robbed.
That just highlights how awful the rest have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Sirchesney was average at best and he got 4th best player
RvP for me should be player of the season, Wilshere IMO should not get that accolade. He's done well dont get me wrong, but RvP has shown that he is a big game player and done his bit in the run in.
Not only that they played in the shit half of the season :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
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As long as the distance we're talking about is so humungous (sp) that largest of cellestial objects is beyond theviewing range of the hubble telescope, then I make you just about right. Jack is good - very good, but he is only POTS because he is English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We've fucked up just about everything this season, so we may as well fuck up the POTS selection as well.
RVP should have won. Goals, assist, passion, determination. Just needs to stay fit.
Whilshere was great but not player of the season. Agree about the assists and goals but he's a huge upgrade on Denilson. No side ways passing and shrieking from responsibility, able to turn a man, able to run with the ball and actually pass it forward.
I like Whilshere, but I think Ramsey will be the guy that gets more of the goals and assists for us if they both took over the midfield. He just seems more direct and noticed a couple of the passes he played during the Manure game. Can play it over the top and thread players through with his passing. Whilshere is probably better in tight situations and playing the accurate ball to feet pass, sneaky one two passes etc. Great close control and very agile. Good dribbler of the ball.
We've got two gems in the squad. We'll be interesting to see how they progress next season. Wenger has bought himself some credit with. These two players and possibly more time. I want to see them leading the line up and getting better.
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Originally Posted by Ach
completely agree, the wheelchair hype is a little much. no way is he the player of the season for us. how its not RVP i have no idea.
We can make this into a poll in this thread to see how in line the Arsenal site is with this place. I could use the top four from arsenal.com or if you want, people could nominate.
I nominate AlmuniaQuote:
Originally Posted by GB.
3 nominees
RVP, Nasri and Wilshere
Cant be anyone else surely?
Top 4 from Arsenal.com it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies
Yeah, I agree, but seeing as Scezney is on the list, we may as well include him. Then there are some people here that have been mentioning Sagna.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
RvP
Just watched Football's Greatest - Marco Van Basten. I can see why so many compare RVP with him. Scored all types of goals and just had this elegant style that was great to watch. It's a damn shame his career ended so early but at least he won a heap of trophies before he retired. Only 28 years old when he retired.
Wenger has to do his all to strengthen this club and win trophies. He's being selfish if he doesn't. You're not guaranteed a long career in football and I'm pretty sure that's in the back of the mind of some of our players. It would be a real shame if some of these players never won a major trophy. Wenger may be able to point to the Emirates as his legacy but the players need trophies and accolades.
They could do their part by concentrating less on the money and more on putting in the required graft. Not saying RvP isn't doing that, hence the unanimous support for him as player of the year here, but others could do with getting their shit together if they want trophies.
Agree with that but there will always be players that just aren't up to the task and Wenger has to do his best to get those players out and surround the very few special players we have with talent.
I think back to past Arsenal players like Henry and Bergkamp, especially Bergkamp and think they should have gone on to win more. The highest of honours. Dennis should have had a few Champs League medals and Ballon D'Or nominations and wins. But at least they won League and Cup honours, PFA Awards and such. They had some real special moments on that pitch. I think RVP and Cesc have had some great moments on the pitch as well, but they are playing with a poor bunch of players that can't defend.
Wenger has to build a stronger team. Not only does he owe it to the rare gems and hard grafters in the team like Cesc, RVP, Walcott, Whilshere and Ramsey, but he owes it to himself. In years to come, I don't want to be watching a 'Football's Greatest - Manager/Player/Team' and reminisce on all the great moments we've had then have it soured when they say we didn't fulfil our potential and didn't win the highest of honours. Wenger should be winning Champs League trophies back to back. Stop with all the modesty and go all out. Fans aside, players aside, he also owes it to himself.
No one going for Nasri?
Hes the one who actually finished 2nd in the overall POTY awards.
Or are people not impressed that he had a good 2 months and did f all for the rest of the season?
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It's time to announce the Arsenal.com Player of the Season - as voted for by the fans.
And the winner is... Jack Wilshere.
The 19-year-old enjoyed a meteoric rise in 2010/11, starting the campaign on the fringes of the Arsenal side and ending it as a regular for club and country.
Jack received 41.4 per cent of the votes in our poll. Here, Arsenal.com reporter Chris Harris gives his verdict on the young midfielder.
“The thing that is different about Jack is that he is very consistent. You hardly ever see him have a bad game. We have got lots of players in the Reserves that are very good players, in my opinion even as good as Jack on their day. But they don’t have that day as often and that is where the difference is."
Of all the tributes paid to Jack Wilshere in recent months, perhaps the most telling was that one from Emmanuel Frimpong.
The midfielder is nine days younger than Wilshere, has grown up alongside him at Arsenal, won the Youth Cup with him two years ago and has designs on a first-team place of his own in the not-too-distant future.
But like all of the talent bubbling under at London Colney, Frimpong needs to produce the goods week-in week-out to emulate his friend. Because it's consistency, as much as quality, that has transformed Wilshere from a promising youngster into a mainstay for club and country.
Samir Nasri was Arsenal's stand-out performer before Christmas. Robin van Persie was a class above in the New Year. But Wilshere was exceptional from August to May, a midfield metronome for all seasons.
It's hard to believe how far Wilshere has come in such a short period. This time last year he was, in Arsène Wenger's words, "completing his footballing education" with a loan spell at Bolton. The Reebok was perhaps an unlikely finishing school but it hardened Wilshere and gave him valuable time in the centre of the pitch after starting his Arsenal career on the flank.
Even so, if there had been a betting market for Arsenal's Player of the Season in 2010/11 you could probably have named your price if you were backing Wilshere. He was still only 18, for heaven's sake, and Wenger had a battery of midfield talent at his disposal.
That all changed in pre-season. Wilshere was practically an ever-present and his stock climbed again when Fabio Capello handed him his international debut against Hungary in August - partly due to the teenager's promise, partly a reaction to England's World Cup woes and the demand for a 'new generation' to be given its head.
Wilshere did well in his brief Wembley cameo and his next opportunity was just around the corner: a starting place on the opening weekend of the Premier League season at Liverpool.
Perhaps he would not have featured that day had Cesc Fabregas or Alex Song been fully fit, but Wilshere did not look out of place and gave Steven Gerrard and company a run for their money during the hour he spent on the Anfield pitch.
You might have expected the youngster to take a back seat after that. But Wenger picked him again. And again. And again. And as the weeks and months unfolded, it became increasingly obvious - Wilshere was a bonafide Premier League player and deserved his place in the team.
His position helped his development. Wilshere emerged through the ranks as an advanced, goalscoring midfielder, but for the first team he was deployed in a deeper role alongside Alex Song. It gave Wilshere a chance to see the play in front of him, allowing him to pick his passes and choose his forward runs carefully.
That partly explains why the goals that littered his climb through the youth ranks have dried up. Wilshere did score against Shakhtar Donetsk and Aston Villa but he may need a positional tweak as well as the experience that brings calmness in the penalty area to get back among the goals.
It's hard to pick holes in any other area of Wilshere's game. He is a tenacious tackler, a wonderful passer - remember his assist for Nicklas Bendtner against Ipswich? - and can drift past opponents with a drop of the shoulder. What's more, he's got bottle and lots of it. When the chips are down Wilshere lifts his team - whether he's in the Nou Camp or the local park.
The 19-year-old admitted that he had exceeded his own expectations in 2010/11 and no wonder. He made 49 appearances for Arsenal - more than any team-mate - and was honoured by his peers in April when the PFA made him their Young Player of the Year.
Arsenal's fans have followed suit and you cannot blame them. They love to see a genuine local talent come good and Wilshere's attitude has also won him support. He shows his emotions, he clearly loves the Club and he connects with the supporters more than most players - Wilshere has more than half a million followers on Twitter.
Our Player of the Season was clearly tiring as the Premier League finish line homed into view but his omission from the England Under-21 squad this summer should afford him a long, deserved rest.
That's just as well - Wilshere has been billed as the future of England but, more importantly, he's the future of Arsenal too.
RVP :bow:
Still believe that RVP's goals masked the fact that having him as the focal point of our attack blunted our overall game. Sure, he got a lot of goals in the second half of the season, but is it worth having one player benefiting so much from a system and style that, untimately, is detrimental to the success of the team as a whole? Having said that, considering how shite everyone else was for the last three months, it probably wouldn't have mattered either way.
Has got to be Jack Wilshere.
That and the fact he's trying to put the club over a barrel. Not sure if it's a criteria but for me the POTY needs to be committed to the club. It appears RvP is, let's see what another barren season brings on that front, and the same appears true of Jack, let's see how the board behave when the big bids start coming in. For now it has to be between those two. Jack was pretty amazing to last out 50 odd games, he definitely did a shift this year. Shame the same can't be said for most of the rest of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach