I hope theo is a man of his word remember him saying this last night
“I didn’t know I had that sort of Ronaldo dip in me so I should try it more often.
yes theo if the end result will be that...this boy centrally would be awesome
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I hope theo is a man of his word remember him saying this last night
“I didn’t know I had that sort of Ronaldo dip in me so I should try it more often.
yes theo if the end result will be that...this boy centrally would be awesome
Venger will prove he's better out wide
He will definitely have that dip when he scores a freekick for Chelsea against us
Theo's got to tell Wenger to play him as a striker or move on. Wenger tried to convince Flamini he was a left back but he told Flams wouldn't accept that position. He tried the same with Song by playing him as a centre back, and let's not forget Eboue.
I'll never forget.
He can speak Korean!
Theo played very well last night. Wenger out!
It was your typical super sub pace against tired defence thing, he wasn't earth shattering, seen it all before.
Stick him up front like Michael Owen not on the wing to really show his worth.
Nah, he played well by his standards. No running into defenders or crossing to the first defender. He managed to dispense with the frustrating side of his game for a few minutes and that was enough.
He's going to demand 120k a week and come back a billy big bollocks after hanging around with all his Little Englanders.
Pretty much.
We should cash in.
New Yacht for Stan :bow:Quote:
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Straight swap for Mata
fakeyank :bow:Quote:
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his best position will always be out wide, as it gives him the maximum amount of space to run into; either out wide or cutting in. his final ball has improved a lot this season and in a world of slow motion replays, over analysis he suffers because everyone hopes for a playstation moment or end product every time he has the ball out wide. pleased for him the other night and hope he stays but given some of unfair stick he has taken by us lot, i wouldn't blame him for clearing off.
I don't care if he does clear off - but as for stick, I can't for the life of me think of a group of fans remaining so patient for so long with such an incredible let down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Theo's had the ability to put in that sort of performance for some time.
What he's lacked is any consistency.
Expectations need to be put into check. Not every 16 year old is going to turn into a superstar, especially when learning a new position that isn't natural for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
How many promising young players has Wenger brought to the club that have ended up doing nothing? There are more flops than success stories. Theo is Cesc, but he's no Vela, Merida, Bentley or JET.
Don't know how you read that into my post. I don't know at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I have stated in reply to a post that a lot of patience by a vast majority of the fans has been shown to Theo.
If you say he's been a let down then obviously there is an issue with expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Nothing to indicate this superstar expectation you talk of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
My expectation level for him has always been some ways south of 'superstar'.
Well how about a comparison to the many other 16 year olds we see come and go at Arsenal? As said, many just don't make it at this level and get shipped off to lower leagues or smaller clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Jesus, I'm not talking about his play 7 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Just accept you got it wrong and kill yourself.
Well make your fecking points more clear and explain or feck off!Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
You're embracing your new non-modness, I see.Quote:
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Expectations were way too high initially because of all the press hype. Most Arsenal fans were far more realistic but Walcott hasn't consistently delivered as much as was hoped even allowing for that. He is still relatively young but already Oxo is looking more like the player we all hoped Walcott would be.
I'll fuck off if you kill yourself, but you'll have to take out GP first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
OK?
And people say the football debate on here is no good.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
GW :bow:
The point is simply this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Arsenal fans have shown a lot of patience for Walcott.
I've changed my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Leave GP alone and get this chump.
He lives on top of a chip shop.
At 16 he was hailed as the next Rooney and Henry. Before he even kicked a ball for us. Expectation levels were too high and of he'd have been signer up as just another one of Wenger's kids, perceptions would probably be different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Over the full 7 year period, there were initial high expectations, they then became expectations, with a lot of patience. Now, I just hope for a performance that isn't brainless and we don't always get that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
He is better than the bulk of his performances and I think the main problem now is people have from last season really lost patience with the inconsistency that he shows.
Hailed by who? The press, maybe. They always fawn over any new English player who is showing promise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I don't think any sensible Arsenal players expected him to be that good, but he's not lived up to our (much lower) expectations and as GB's said people have been far more patient with him than they would a foreign player.
He's shown some promise, he needs to get more consistent but he could be a very useful player for us. I guess he already is to an extent but his lack of consistency is a worry. He's getting to the age now where he should be far more consistent than he's been.
By the press and Wenger. His career has been pretty stop start and over time fan expectations have been adjusted and that's probably the reason why their has been patience because since he's been here he's hardly played a full season. We seen flashes of brilliance but also real awful performances. But he's a kid still. He's played more over the past two seasons without a serious injury and to be fair his return has been just as good and better than older players that are more experienced and technically better.Quote:
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OK. I was going to pick you up on Wenger but fair enough:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...head-of-messsi
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I don't think the fans ever thought that though. As for being a kid, he is 23. Still relatively young but old enough that he should be getting more consistent but I take the point about injuries which have hampered his progress. There are flashes of real ability.
The game that sums him up is the Spurs one. First half he stunk up the place and he really should have been substituted at half time. Wenger kept him on and he scored 2 goals!
Considering his age, I think his numbers and performances are on par with all of our other wide players. Recent wide players anyway. Nasri, Arshavin, Gervinho, Rosicky, Hleb, Eboue, heck even Reyes...every single one of them have struggled to find consistency. But Theo, with all his faults still manages to equal or better their goal tally and assists records. On most big games he shows up as well. Doesn't go missing. That's why I give him a lot of credit and I don't consider him to be a natural winger either. Seen guys like Eboue, Diaby, Eduardo etc look totally toothless when played out there. To do what he's doing is pretty impressive.
an incredible let down that has scored 24 goals and 22 assists in the last two seasons from out wide - pretty comparable to nani at old trafford. god knows what end product fans expect from him then.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Stop speaking sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
You're right, he is wonderful and we got on his back right away for no reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Good numbers and big performances against some of the biggest teams. This is the first time in his career where he hasn't been hit with an injury that takes him out for half a season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
well argued against that specific point. nothing sarcastic and pointless about what you said at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
He hit a purple patch from February - from the 2nd half against Spurs to be precise.
I'd love him to keep at or around that level - again, my point has been about TT's post I replied to - over his career here, the fans have shown a lot of patience with him and we don't deserve for him to walk away at the first sign of him delivering.