Squad Analysis 2012-2013

First of all, a round up of our current team though the prism of the 8+17 Homegrown rules with those who have left, or very likely to leave in grey.


Homegrown players over the age of 21 (7+4)
Djourou (Center Back)
Mannone (Goalkeeper)
Song (Defensive Midfielder)
Walcott (Wide Forward)
Gibbs (Left Back)
Ramsey (21) (Central Midfielder)
Szczesny (21) (Goalkeeper)

Denilson
Vela
Bendtner
Lansbury


Non homegrown players (13+4 out of a Maximum of 17)
Podolski (Right sided AMF)
Giroud (Center Forward)
Chamakh (Center Forward)
Diaby (Central Midfielder)
Koscielny (Center Back)
Rosicky (Central Midfielder)
Sagna (Right Back)
Van Persie (Center Forward)
Vermaelen (Center Back)
Mertesacker (Center Back)
Gervinho (Wide Striker)
Arteta (Central Midfielder)
Santos (Left Back)

Squillaci
J Y Park
Arshavin
Fabianski


Under 21's likely to be a big part of next season.
Ryo Miyaichi (19) (Wide Striker)
Francis Coquelin (20) (Defensive Midfielder)
Jack Wilshere (20) (Central Midfielder)
Carl Jenkinson (20) (Right Back)
Ignasi Miquel (19) (Center Back)
Campbell (19)
Oxlaid Chamberlain (18)
Benik Afobe (20)
Kyle Bartley (20)
Emmanuel Frimpong



What does this mean?
With the departures of Benayoun and Almunia seemingly leading directly to the purchases of Giroud and Podolski, we've probably been very conservative up until now in the purchases we have bought. Between, Squillaci, Park, Arshavin and Fabianski, I'd expect only 1 to stay allowing us the option for 3 new, senior level signings. Of course more players could leave, including RVP or Wallcott, but as far as any solid news - well, there hasn't been any, and that includes your favourites, Chamakh, diaby, and Djourou of whom I believe will be with us next season.

The 'homegrown' section follows a similar pattern mostly due to players returning from loan. I'd expect we'll probably end up keeping 1, although I wouldn't be surprised to see none being with us next season.



Tips for transfers?
I'd expect 3-4 additional signings before the end of the transfer window.

Defensive Midfield - almost certain that we're in the market for one, and given our pattern of play, our over reliance on Song, and the general analysis from last season where within the games we lost, our ability to stop breaks, through balls or control midfield where weaknesses, especially against lower level teams - it seems that this is a priority transfer this summer. M'Vila, Javi Martinez seem to be the most likeliest options right now.

Goal Keeper - A senior goal keeper to replace Almunia and to provide reliable competition, and cover to Szczesny would be my next big tip for transfer activity. This would ideally suit someone towards the end of there career so don't expect any super star signings here.

Homegrown Midfielder - If more homegrown players end up leaving than expected or particularly good deals emerge (eg, walcott, ramsey), expect AW to start looking at players like Junior Hoilet and Victor Moses for re-enforcements in midfield.

The Marque Midfielder - This is just a hunch, but based of solid reports that Arsenal has, at least, been at the negotiating table of some of the bigger signings of the summer (Kawaga, Hazard) - I would suspect that Wenger is looking out for THE big signing, a flair player that would roam the midfield and create chances. It may even be dependant on RVP or others deciding to leave, bad news on the injury front or how much he might be forced to spend on a CDM, however as a dark horse I wouldn't rule out a late bid on players like Ben Arfa towards the end of the transfer window.

Looks pretty much on track.^^

I think fabianski will stay this season. As such, it's likely our priorities have shifted somewhat from signing a back up goal keeper to potencially a left back, or versitile defender. Beyond Carzola, I believe that a CDM is pretty much still our top priority with names like Sahin and Wanyama making the rounds.

Players who are looking to leave or are unlikely to have much involvement next season:
Squillaci
J Y Park
Arshavin
Denilson
Bendtner
Van Persie

Players With strong interest or unresolved contract issues:
Walcott
Chamakh

By my count we have a squad size of 24 players, which could drop to 22 depending on how many between chamakh, van perise and walcott leave this season. (14 none home grown, 8 homegrown)

What might be interesting to watch would be how Lansbury, now over 21, gets incorporated into the squad. Either way, there's a lot to look forward to between now and the next 30 days.

Update 080712


Homegrown players over the age of 21 (6+2)
Djourou (Center Back)
Mannone (Goalkeeper)
Gibbs (Left Back)
Ramsey (21) (Central Midfielder)
Szczesny (21) (Goalkeeper)
Lansbury (21) (Midfielder)

Song (Defensive Midfielder)
Walcott (Wide Forward)



Non homegrown players (12+3 out of a Maximum of 17)
Podolski (Right sided AMF)
Giroud (Center Forward)
Diaby (Central Midfielder)
Koscielny (Center Back)
Rosicky (Central Midfielder)
Sagna (Right Back)
Vermaelen (Center Back)
Mertesacker (Center Back)
Gervinho (Wide Striker)
Arteta (Central Midfielder)
Santos (Left Back)
Cazorla (Left Midfield)
Fabianski (Goal Keeper)


Van Persie (Center Forward)
Arshavin
Chamakh (Center Forward)





Almost certainly out of the door already:
J Y Park
Squillaci
Bendtner




Under 21's likely to be a big part of next season.
Francis Coquelin (20) (Defensive Midfielder)
Jack Wilshere (20) (Central Midfielder)
Carl Jenkinson (20) (Right Back)
Oxlaid Chamberlain (18)
Kyle Bartley (20)
Emmanuel Frimpong
Thomas Einsfield (17)
Eastmond (21)




Right now, we have a maxium 26 senior players over the age of 21, out of the leagues limit of 25
3 of which will almost certainly not take any part in next season, whilst 5 players have a 50/50 chance or higher, of leaving this season.

Our minium squad total could be 17, +youth/reserves (worse case scenario) and it's likely that we could make between 2-3 new signings given likely depatures.

The number of

Dain it :a^gry:

The number of what?

full back and DM please.

This is a very helpful thread tbf.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

This is a very helpful thread tbf.

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Exactly.

I wouldn't have a clue what team to pick otherwise......oh.




Vinegar is building team for the future.

Preliminary transfer predictions:

Out (or reserves): RVP, Bendtner, Squillachi, Park, Eastmond
In: Mirallas, Sahin +possibly a deadline day dash for a fullback

Anyone else want to chip in with transfer predictions?

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

Preliminary transfer predictions:

Out (or reserves): RVP, Bendtner, Squillachi, Park, Eastmond
In: Mirallas, Sahin +possibly a deadline day dash for a fullback

Anyone else want to chip in with transfer predictions?

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Probably one best for the speculation thread, but meh:

Out: RVP, Bender, Song, Walcott, Squid
In: Sahin (loan), M'Villa

In: Sahin, Mvila, Mirallas.

M'vila's most likely off to spurs.

They've got one over us again.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

They've got one over us again.

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Bentley :(.

Capi :(.

Ade :(.

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

Bentley :(.

Capi :(.

Ade :(.

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Chris Armstrong :(

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

Chris Armstrong :(

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Most of all, Clive Allen :(.

I retroactively blame Wenger for this.

Capi?

Also Ade was awesome for them tbh

invest that £24m into a full back and DM please.

if song leaves then another DM too.

if we do that i may get over the fact that judas **** left for our biggest rival.

Update 081712


Homegrown players over the age of 21 (8)
Djourou (Center Back)
Mannone (Goalkeeper)
Gibbs (Left Back)
Ramsey (21) (Central Midfielder)
Szczesny (21) (Goalkeeper)
Lansbury (21) (Midfielder)
Walcott (24) (Wide Forward)
Eastmond (21) (Center Back/Right Back)



Non homegrown players (14 out of a Maximum of 17)
Podolski (Right sided AMF)
Giroud (Center Forward)
Diaby (Central Midfielder)
Koscielny (Center Back)
Rosicky (Central Midfielder)
Sagna (Right Back)
Vermaelen (Center Back)
Mertesacker (Center Back)
Gervinho (Wide Striker)
Arteta (Central Midfielder)
Santos (Left Back)
Cazorla (Left Midfield)
Fabianski (Goal Keeper)
Arshavin (Attacking Midfielder)
Chamakh (Center Forward)





Almost certainly out of the door already:
J Y Park
Squillaci
Bendtner
Song




Under 21's likely to be a big part of next season.
Francis Coquelin (20) (Defensive Midfielder)
Jack Wilshere (20) (Central Midfielder)
Carl Jenkinson (20) (Right Back)
Oxlaid Chamberlain (18)
Emmanuel Frimpong (20)
Nico Yennaris (19)
Thomas Einsfield (17)




Not much has changed - as we appear to be adhering to a strict 1 in, 1 out policy, expect little movement in the transfer window until senior players we have on the books confirm their exit, with Song, Bendtner and Park and Squillaci looking the most likely to leave in the next week or so.

Oh, Kyle Bartley's exit was a bit of supprise to be honest, I wonder whether Lansbury and Eastmond are looking across the fence or expect to feature this season?

There will be the inevitable swathe of players going out on loan in early September.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

There will be the inevitable swathe of players going out on loan in early September.

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Got any specifics?

As it stands, we have a squad of 22 players +4 who look to be on their way out. If we're loaning out the likes of Lansbury and Eastmond, it would be because we'd be signing homegrown talent from the EPL - which could happen, but seems unlikely given the lack of smoke in regards to rumors and current targets.

I think we're coming up to the sharp end of what this homegrown rule is supposed to do, and when viewed from that lens interesting scenarios in regards to what players might do and where they might go start to emerge.

You can never tell with Wenger but I'd have thought Lansbury would go out on loan again, I think Yennaris might stick around. Frimpong will obviously stay because of his injury.

Then we'll go further in to the reserves of those that probably wouldn't have featured much anyway.

Update 081912


Homegrown players over the age of 21 (7+1)
Djourou (Center Back)
Mannone (Goalkeeper)
Gibbs (Left Back)
Ramsey (21) (Central Midfielder)
Szczesny (21) (Goalkeeper)
Lansbury (21) (Midfielder)
Eastmond (21) (Center Back/Right Back)

Walcott (24) (Wide Forward)



Non homegrown players (13+2 out of a Maximum of 17)
Podolski (Right sided AMF)
Giroud (Center Forward)
Diaby (Central Midfielder)
Koscielny (Center Back)
Rosicky (Central Midfielder)
Sagna (Right Back)
Vermaelen (Center Back)
Mertesacker (Center Back)
Gervinho (Wide Striker)
Arteta (Central Midfielder)
Santos (Left Back)
Cazorla (Left Midfield)
Fabianski (Goal Keeper)


Arshavin (Attacking Midfielder)
Chamakh (Center Forward)





Almost certainly out of the door already:
J Y Park
Squillaci
Bendtner





Under 21's likely to be a big part of next season.
Francis Coquelin (20) (Defensive Midfielder)
Jack Wilshere (20) (Central Midfielder)
Carl Jenkinson (20) (Right Back)
Oxlaid Chamberlain (18)
Emmanuel Frimpong (20)
Nico Yennaris (19)
Thomas Einsfield (17)





Players traded this summer:
In:
Santi Cazorla - £11,900,000
Lukas Podolski - £10,300,000
Olivier Giroud - £9,600,000

Total £31,800,000

Out
Robin van Persie - £22,500,000
Alex Song - £14,900,000
Carlos Vela - £2,350,000
Kyle Bartley - £1,000,000
Oguzhan Özyakup - £400,000
Manuel Almunia - Free
Yossi Benayoun - Loan Ended

Total £41,150,000


Net profit = £9,350,000

Update 083012 (OMG)
Players already on the plane, or are about to have medicals at other clubs already removed (eg, bendtner, chamakh, park)
Players who might be shipped off by the end of tomorrow are in grey.


Homegrown players over the age of 21 (5+21)
Djourou (Center Back)
Mannone (Goalkeeper)
Gibbs (Left Back)
Ramsey (21) (Central Midfielder)
Szczesny (21) (Goalkeeper)

Walcott (24) (Wide Forward)
Eastmond (21) (Center Back/Right Back)



Non homegrown players (13+2 out of a Maximum of 17)
Podolski (Right sided AMF)
Giroud (Center Forward)
Diaby (Central Midfielder)
Koscielny (Center Back)
Rosicky (Central Midfielder)
Sagna (Right Back)
Vermaelen (Center Back)
Mertesacker (Center Back)
Gervinho (Wide Striker)
Arteta (Central Midfielder)
Santos (Left Back)
Cazorla (Left Midfield)
Fabianski (Goal Keeper)

Arshavin (Attacking Midfielder)
Squillaci


We could sign 2 foreign, and 2 homegrown players tomorrow, and that's before accounting for Eastmond or Squillaci, who most likely will feature in the reserves or get loaned out to lower division sides if they remain come September 1st.

Champions League squad:

Szczesny, Fabianski, Mannone.
Sagna, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Andre Santos, Squillaci, Djourou, Jenkinson, Gibbs.
Diaby, Rosicky, Arteta, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey, Cazorla, Gnabry.
Podolski, Giroud, Arshavin, Gervinho, Chamakh.

Interesting that Gnabry has made it in. :popcorn:

Squillaci and Chakma. :(

Gnabry. :popcorn:

No Eisfeld though. :(

Chamakh was practically on the plane to Malaga if reports are to be believed. Now he's sick with a stomach bug.

Does that actually work? Forging a sick note from your mum so the club can't get rid of you?

Another 6 months, another transfer window.

The list hasn't really changed much - those in grey - 50/50 chance or higher of leaving before the end of the month.


Homegrown players over the age of 21 (6+1)

Mannone (Goalkeeper)
Gibbs (Left Back)
Ramsey (21) (Central Midfielder)
Szczesny (21) (Goalkeeper)
Eastmond (21) (Center Back/Right Back)
Whilshire (21(ish) (Centrol Midfielder)

Walcott (24) (Wide Forward)



Non homegrown players (12+3 out of a Maximum of 17)
Podolski (Right sided AMF)
Giroud (Center Forward)
Diaby (Central Midfielder)
Koscielny (Center Back)
Rosicky (Central Midfielder)
Sagna (Right Back)
Vermaelen (Center Back)
Mertesacker (Center Back)
Gervinho (Wide Striker)
Arteta (Central Midfielder)
Cazorla (Left Midfield)
Fabianski (Goal Keeper)

Arshavin (Attacking Midfielder)
Santos (Left Back)
Squillaci


The squads pretty bare bones and if as many leave as we expect, we'd have the smallest senior team out of the top 6 teams in the EPL.

I expect 4 players to leave, 3 to come in and only 2 of those to be of any significance.

Meh.

With Chamakh and Djuouru completing loan moves, we could, at this very moment sign 3 senior internationals and 1 homegrown player without going over the quota. THATS BEFORE the probable moves of Arshavin, Santos and Squillaci.
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