The general consensus about tomorrow seems to be: :ilt:
It's very rare I'm this certain we'll lose a game. When's the last time you felt like this before a game (if you do?)
For me it's Barca away the other year when we got the predictable battering (although but for the ref and Bentner not living up to his own hype we might just have gone through that night)
United away last year.
I hate the fixture, we very rarely get results there. We either get battered or play well and still lose. Gah.
Where have you been? This has been the norm for a minute now.
I can't remember, but I will have felt so more times in the past - simply because I cared more then. Now its just 'meh'. I think we'll lose and I'm not going to beat myself up about it when we do.
I can't remember the last time I felt this bad going to Old Trafford.
Usually I think we might get something up there (and usually I'm wrong).
Not this time.
ManYoo will win. RvP will score. These are known knowns.
:ilt:
Can I beat you up when we lose?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
When it seems things can't get any worse, I usually think we'll pull off a miracle. But now we've seen it enough times to know we don't do that - we just sink to newer lows. Absolutely certain of a Man Utd win. And what IBK said...won't be getting annoyed about the result. Hope we get Gibbs and others back for a game after that we can win in the battle for CL qualification.
An utter disgrace and nothing short of a travesty that this legacy will be attached to out greatest manager yet.
If Ramsinho and santos play and or if Dowd or the bald copper are on Fergies teamsheet, then you can forget it. The only silver lining is that its just 3 points, just like getting smothered at Norwich. If this was a CL fixture or Fa cup 1/4 them maybe I would wake up 2mrw wishing it was the day after. But hey, if wenger csn shrug off crap displays, so can I.
Last time I felt this consigned to a loss was before the QPR game.
Everything depends on the team selection tomorrow. Chamakh is back to his very best - so he's still not good enough to play. Giroud up top then, but we must make sure we isolate him or else he might score. If our players can each run 14.2 kilometres in 93 minutes then statistically we deserve to win, although we may not actually win. Keeping the ball will be vitally important, if we hide it then Utd can't score.
Spurs at home last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
That Barcelona game, away, after we'd taken a 2-1 first leg lead to the Nou Camp.
Everything about the pre-match build-up was pessimistic.
I'm indifferent nowadays, we lose games pretty often so you get use to it. I don't really see us up there anymore, even though I'd love us to be so losing to the top clubs is just confirmation of that.
If we lose at the weekend we lose, if we win great, it won't mean much as we won't be anywhere come the end of the season. Either way Wenger needs to be on his merry way for me to truly believe we can move forward, until then we'll just stagnate as we have done for years now.
Yet if we lose you'll be in the match thread moaning about how we should be doing better etc. Though tbf your not the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
We're no longer competing with the likes of United so any defeat is no longer as significant as it used to be.
Might as well not turn up, give the, the 3 points now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
we are gonna win, and win well!
1-3
man up
pretty sure we will lose but as always no matter how pessimistic i am feeling, there is always a part of me that believes we will do it. just like on tuesday night, i couldnt turn the tv off even though i wanted to because i didnt want to see us lose because there was still part of me that believed. i hate that bit of hope i always have. makes every defeat so much worse.
all wenger should say tomorrow in his team talk is "van persie said you were shit and not good enough to play with him. go prove him wrong"
But in reality he'll say, Podolski you are a little bit substituted after 68 minutes. Walcott you are little bit coming on after 72 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Problem is this lot would probs cry and bottle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Your face is a little bit substituted :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Strangely optimistic about this one. Their defence is a joke at the moment but we have to be far sharper and quicker in how we move the ball along. Anyone worrying about a similar scoreline to last season needs to stop being a fanny and sort it out tbh.
Winning would be just the sort of fucked up way we approach things, as we then disappear for a disaster out in Germany next week.
Substituted for poop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
lolz
Disgusting the way Cripps is treated on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Well no really :coffee.
I won't feel any different if we won to be honest, we're not a great team and one win won't change that. I don't want to see one good win, I'd rather see us challenging for stuff. It seems to change other people's opinions but not mine, people were raving about our start but I always felt we'd come unstuck eventually and it didn't take too long. This team under the current setup doesn't have it in them to be up there with the big boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I don't really rate us and it's clear to me we lack quality in many areas.
Yet it won't stop you and other's moaning after the game or even watching the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Yeah why not, I suppose if we win it will help us in our quest for the 4th place trophy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Very true, but I'll keep doing that until the old man leaves tbh, because it's been clear to me we were on the way down under his management for years now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Did i say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
No you said we may as well not bother turning up, fair point, look what happened last season when we did, I'd rather give them the 3 points now personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
lets put another hypothetical spin on this. if we win (i did say hypothetical) tomorrow, and beat spurs in two weeks time. it means we will have beaten liverpool away, united away, spurs at home, drawn away at the champions and lost to chelsea.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
that puts us up there with the big boys in terms of playing them, we lose ground by failing to beat the small teams. what do you say to that? i know its hypothetical but if it happens, there is a chance (small i know) or even a draw at united. says a lot to me
Well if the team had your attitude id hope they never play again this season. Might as well ending now, infact might as well shut the club down and pull out of football all together.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Let's be honest here, Liverpool have got barely a striker and are sh*t at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Spurs are OK but I'm not a fan of Villas-Boas, I don't think he's much cop as he proved at Chelsea.
Man U are better but aren't the side they once were, they got a lucky win last weekend (and it was lucky), but the best two sides are clearly Chelsea and City, Ferguson is the only thing that sets them apart from rest of us, that and the fact they signed one of the best strikers in the league last summer. Their defence is appalling.
Even if we won both those games (and it's a big if), we'd screw it up, we always do, challenging isn't about winning the odd big game it's about consistency and building on good wins without bottling when times get tough.
They don't really give a sh*t so they're not far off, they never come out with any desire and real intent, when it matters most they rollover and get beaten, you can't believe in sh*t like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Ollie never said we were challenging. We all know we are the best of the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Theo Walcott Celebrating when he made it 6-5 in the CC shoed he cares very much. And he's not the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
The way the team Celebrated after we beat city, although a bit cringy, showed they care a hell of alot.
We didnt play in the CCQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
It doesn't put us up with the big boys then, we all know that if we played them in a must win match for both sides we'd come out on the losing side, better manager, better mentality, more desire and better players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
You can't win with so little going for you.
COC then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe