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Will he?
Yes.
In fact I saw him buying a nice new suit yesterday.
i disagree. Because its been 7 years and no change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
That didn't belong to him, I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
No.
He is still the same manager he always was tbh and always will be
People keep saying how Wenger has changed. IMO the problem is he hasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
When he came to England his ideas were revolutionary, you didn't have billionaires throwing silly money around.
Football has moved on, Wenger hasn't.
And no, he won't change.
change what? that space jacket he wears on the touchline? doubt it.
To be honest, even without Billionaires I don't think he'd compete, it's his principles and methods that are flawed these days...not just the fact other clubs have money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
No
No
I don't think he can change, what he is doing here he did at Monaco, they got shot of him when they finished 11th.
He's "deep in it" and I don't think he knows how to get out.
Primark 6 pack in the January sales - reduced from £49 to £19 plus he had a voucher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
yeah apart from the unbeatables season, two other league titles, four fa cups, otherwise yeah he cant compete
Not challenging for any trophy of note in the last gazillion years, playing players out of position, brain fart tactics & substitution, imaginary domination, wasting money on useless players, putting faith in useless and injured players, losing the faith of pretty much every top player that has played... yeah he cant compete.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
FYI, this is 2012 not 2004...
Highest paid manager in the PL. Wots to change?. Besides he can dine for free for at least 50 yrs in Ollies restuarant for the stuff he won a decade ago
To say we've not challenged at all in the last 7 years is plainly not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Agree to an extent but the billionaires have changed the game and made it harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
That was 7 years ago, in the modern day he can't we've seen that...from the CC final, the collapses in the league to the regular defeats by much smaller clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
No doubt they have, but we're not short of a few bob ourselves and had he invested the money more wisely on the right players and replaced players who left adequately we'd be in a much better position. He always chosen the cheap cut price options and now the team reflects that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
He's pretty much trapped in his own little dreamland now.
Everyone in England thinks the answer is to spend, the comment about Messi last week etc. He's totally lost sight of what the fans are actually concerned about.
All we seem to do now is fuel his tirade. He needs to go before he alienates everyone and is remembered more for the psycho he became and not the visionary he was.
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
Whatever you may think, Wenger has done well at times over the last 7 years to keep us competitive despite not splashing out. That 'Eduardo' year we weren't far off the title, had we kept that side together and signed a couple of top players to push us on then we'd have been in a much stronger position. Instead year on year we've sold our best players and not replaced them. We got away with it last year because we still had one outstanding player who could make the difference, then we went and sold him and now we look like a very ordinary side. Still an above average side, we'll still be in the race for top 4, but we're depressingly ordinary compared with our best sides under Wenger. It's massively frustrating when a couple of top players which wouldn't have bankrupted us could have made a lot of difference :(
Wenger, the board, everyone at Arsenal lost me when RvP was sold. Comments in the media, is there cash, isn't there cash, who controls policy - these are all up for debate, hyped, misreported, there are grey areas. But selling the most influential player in a team short of talent and selling him to the competition to transform them into a title winning side and us into guaranteed also-rans, that spoke louder than any interview or shareholders meeting. It stated we have zero ambition and our plan is to have zero ambition. And it confirmed all of them to be grade A liars.
It doesn't matter who changes, who comes, who goes. With the people we have in charge now and the intent they have shouted loud and clear we know that nothing will be done in their tenure to move this club in a positive direction. It's a waiting game, as a fan I am waiting for all of them to fuck off so I can recover a passion for the club. This isn't about sticking through thick and thin because even in the lean times a sporting outfit should be striving to be better. Motivation comes from the top. Hence nobody is motivated at Arsenal, from the gay yank at the top right down to many of even the most diehard fans. We know there's nothing worth getting excited about at this club because those who control the direction (including Wenger) have shouted it loud and clear.
I can never recall being so meh about a major game. I'll watch it out of habit but really, if they don't care how can I?
Barring our CL run to the final, which was incidentally 7 years back, we have reached two CC finals. Thats why I mentioned 'trophy of any note' coz CC is not a trophy of any note. Not that we won them anyway, our second CC final loss was so disastrous, I feel ashamed of the way the team played!Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
As for PL, we challenged till February, March may be in some seasons and then pissed off our chances. Sorry, thats not challenging in my book. Especially when you are talking about the great AW who went unbeaten a whole season, won 4 FA cups and 2 league titles.
The only thing AW has challenged in the last 7 years is the fans patience.. Man's a joke tbh!
:gp: we were 2 quality signings away from winning the title in the eduardo year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
this is truer than a 1+1=2Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel_Quinn
I too gave up at that point, and am still very enraged about selling the best player in the league to Utd, and for a pittance. Nothing they will say or do will change how I feel. They are all arseholes, the lot of them ...only us the fans actually know what it means to love this club, and it's hurting bad right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel_Quinn
Yep. The RVP transfer was the biggest insult I think the club have done in my lifetime, as far as I can remember offhand.
It would have been much more palatable to the fans if we'd sold him abroad for half, a third, or whatever the amount we sold him to utd for. You don't sell your best players to your supposed rivals! Completely unnaceptable and makes my blood boil every time I think about it.
He didn't want to go abroad.
I thought the rumours at the time was that Juve only offered 10 mil or some shit like that? Do you think the club had absolutely no choice than to sell to one of the Manchester clubs?
No. I think we had absolutely no choice but to sell to Utd.
They should have let him go for free then and forced him to pick Utd without our consent. That transfer was an unambiguous broadcast from the club to the fans that read "Fuck you, you just don't matter, not even a bit!" Okay, no fan matters to the ****s in charge of football these days, but some of them are at least wary of crossing certain boundaries. Not our lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
A noble gesture I'm sure, but not really a realistic scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel_Quinn
We'll lose the value of the transfer fee, at the very least, if we don't grab 4th spot this year. And who knows what might have changed if he'd been forced to see out his contract? We did have a choice. They made the money choice as always. Let's hope Walcott is as good as he thinks he is otherwise the net result of the RvP saga will be a big fat zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
We'll lose the value of the transfer fee, at the very least, if we don't grab 4th spot this year. And who knows what might have changed if he'd been forced to see out his contract? We did have a choice. They made the money choice as always. Let's hope Walcott is as good as he thinks he is otherwise the net result of the RvP saga will be a big fat zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
They have no problem flushing £25mill and then some down the toilet on the likes of Ramsey, Chamakh, Bendtner, Santos. I don't think you are taking into account the fact we were in possession of far and away the best striker in world football. Now the club that had already opened a big gap on us have moved onto another level. This board has actually done more for Man Utd than it has ever done for Arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
We were never in possession of Falcao.
Great goal scorer, half the player RvP is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
is the sky red?
The fact that we found ourselves in that situation regards RVP's contract and others such as Nasri and now Theo, is all down to Stan, Gazdick and Wenget. Total fuck up from start to finish.