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With the new rules coming in, I can't help but feel there are too many ways around it for it too actually work. Whats to stop donations, or chairmen taking the debt onto themselves. I can only see it benefiting the teams with a sugar daddy.
I think a much more beneficial stategy would be to adopt a salary cap, which is the real reason behind most of the debt teams acrew in the first place!
Sugar daddy's can do what they want arent the rules more around spendind and the encumberence of long term debt? They should just do what France did and make it so clubs cant operate it debt or beyond their means.
One of the great legacies Wenger will leave behind is the financial stability of the club and for that he will always be a legend.
Unless he goes out and spends fuckloada millions this summer to appease fans and we still don't win anything and drop out of the top four. His fuck up would really be complete then...Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
Sorry mate i dont followQuote:
Originally Posted by LDG
The rule won't make an immediate impact and I don't want it to be used as an excuse either. If clubs continue to spend big, I suspect Wenger will continue on with his 'financial doping' crusade. Money isn't our problem and the rule is in place to stop clubs going bust or doing dodgy deals for ownership. We're in good shape so what we do on the pitch should be our focus, not what others do off the pitch.
Just watching Sky Sports News and saw the Villa loss again. Houllier wasn't even in charge of that game. They had Gary McAllister was in charge. Another rookie stand in boss was a able to beat Wenger. How many rookies have got one up on him this season?
We have beaten both teams that featured in the Champions League final this season and beaten the teams that finished above us in the league as well. They're the the teams with the sugar daddies, but we lose against struggling clubs, the teams below us with less money. We need to sort that out. No need to worry about what Chelsea and City do.
This. They need to make it so clubs can't spend beyond their means. And 'their means' shouldn't include uncle Roman and his billions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
And they need to make the playing field a bit more even by making the amounts the teams get in prize money less uneven throughout the game so you don't get this little group of teams at the top who can outspend everyone.
McCallister is hardly a rookie is he mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
What would you call him? Have you seen his management credentials? Do you really think a stand in caretaker manager should be getting one over Wenger? Any dig can have his day, but look at the amount of caretakers and rookies have mananaged to pick up points of Wenger this season.
He's well versed in getting one over on us....sure he's beaten us as manager and player on many occassion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
Wenger could have maintained financial stability while still supplementing the squad with reasonably priced quality players in the last 5 years. His failure to do so directly contributed to our lack of silverware in the last 5 seasons, and he has to take a lot of responsibility for that. It's not as if we needed to spend £100M on someone like Messi, which is what Wenger seems to feel the fans want. This is a nonsense, and a clear example of Wenger employing reducio ad absurdum in an inappropriate way. Signings like Sagna, Vermaelen etc didn't break the bank, but they still contributed significantly to improving the quality of the team. However, instead he chose to focus on signing idiots like Silvestre, Bischoff, Squillaci, etc from the bargain basement, under the guise of maintaining "financial stability".
sounds a bit like the same sword that Tony Blair killed himself withQuote:
Originally Posted by LDG
but thats the point, surely teams like Chelsea etc could live within their means, by receiving huge sponsorship deals every season from Abramovich? That would be a roundabout way of continuing what hes doing at the moment. I don't see how the new rules will change anything, there will always be loop holes.
and you can bet all of Arsenal's transfer kitty on the likes of Romansea and Citeh have an army of lawyers looking for those same loopholes as we speakQuote:
Originally Posted by server too busy!
FFP is a myth that will never become a reality. There is nothing to stop City and Chelsea having incredible shirt sales that can be shown up as Club income.