Bendtner ... Fuck off
Park :bow:
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Bendtner ... Fuck off
Park :bow:
What about the Muppet who keeps playing himQuote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Is the Ozil lift coming to an end?
He has hardly played him this season.
And hopefully never again on that showing.
Poor from us. Too predictable.
Caught for the millionth time be a chelsea team from our own corner, then sucker punched when we were taking the game to them.
It could have been five years ago.
Jenks was woefully out of his depth, I hate to say.
Bendtner was dire.
Chelsea are so much better with Mata in the side. I really hope Mourinho keeps not playing him in the league.
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Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Yup, wenger's transfer policy leaves us dangling over a precipice once again. One injury to giroud and we are royally fucked.
More worryingly, the whole team seems to be losing form by the week - all at the worst possible time.
Possibly - but it was unrealistic to expect one guy to just turn it all around.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
However, the impact Flamini had is really showing now he is absent.
I think we need to just stay in contention by the time the next window opens so that we can get something, anything up front because we are going to be toothless against well organised teams. Luckily for us, there aren't too many well organised teams in the League.
Don't really care that much about the result. But our midfielders clocked up another leggy performance and that might well hurt us for the Liverpool game. Worst possible outcome to this.
-Ramsey and Jack should never play in the same midfield. Both of them make too many mistakes taking turns giving possession away.
-Need a new right back, Jenks is hopeless defender.
-Ryo is not ready to play against big teams.
-We desperately need an organizer in midfield, those lot have no idea how to protect CBs. Look at how well Chelsea did! I hope Flamini will be fit to play against Pool next Sat.
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Worst outcome would have been ET.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
When we went 0-2, we should have just taken Ozil off there and then and left Giroud on the bench.
At least neither of them got injured.
First 11 is very good, and we do need some players back to give a few lads a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
Podolski, Theo, AOC etc can't get back quick enough, as we need to start varying our game.
We haven't been able to change the way we play much just recently, for lack of options, meaning we're getting easier to play against.
That was evident today. Chelsea didn't break sweat.
I think this was Bendtners last game for Arsenal, what an arrogant cunt. Hasnt changed his attitude at all.
I dont think we got outplayed in anyway, this game just showed how bad we need an extra DM and Striker.
Sucks we have so many injuries, would have liked to see us play with our proper back-ups that actually have a chance to get in the starting line-up, so this would be their chance to show Wenger.
For me, problem is that because of injuries we have been unable to build on the positive performances. Lack of options becoming obvious and its not surprising that there is a question mark over our winning credentials.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Chelsea played that game perfectly. Sucked the life out of it and took their chances.
Arsenal playing with little energy and Jenkinson, Wilshere and Bendner stinking the place up added up to a forgettable night.
This match was always going to be an unwelcome nuisance, especially with so many players out. Players that would have added so much in the final third over a weak Ryo and uninterested Bendnter. If everyone is unscathed going into the coming games though, this result isn't too big a deal.
Only 3 or 4 of today's starters will play on Saturday, so the performance against Liverpool is hopefully far removed from that.
There have been question marks over better Arsenal sides than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
Wenger is a gambler. He keeps gambling on getting 4th place each season. The only sure thing is his contract. How can anyone start a season with only 1 capable striker. Did he know Ramsey would go beast mode this season. No he just keeps getting lucky, but not lucky enough to win anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by RomfordPele
We had a few injuries it's part of the course for us, fact is Chelsea played their B team not their 1st 11 and still won easily. I can't see us beating them with our 1st 11 we just don't have enough up front.
I was frankly pleasantly surprised at how many 1st teamers we players today, sadly we lost comfortably which makes me wish we'd played the kids now.
Trying to understand what this means. For me, the real question is whether our team has really changed. First, we had worryingly few fresh options tonight, even against a Chelsea b team. Second, we can make excuses, but the reality is that Dortmund and Chelsea have done us at home quite easily, even when we have been more buoyant than we have for a while. We have been nearly there for years. Its starting to feel as though we are still treading water a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
Bit weird to be out of this one so early. :lol:
Ah well, nevermind. So long as we don't lose to Liverpool.
Ozil was a great signing no question, but it was a get out jail card for the manager and club after a horrendous summer. Our start to the season has been fairly easy to be honest and whilst we've played well and got some excellent results and performances we've not really been tested (other than the Spurs match against a disjointed Spurs team with too many new players).
We coming up to a tough run now and on top of everything else our early season form has dipped badly.
It means that we have a fair bit of work to do to build a team that does not have question marks over it. We have had better teams than this in the not too distant past that couldn't cut the mustard.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
We are improving, but there is a way to go yet.
I think the main problem in the game was Bendnter. We had decent enough build up play, but he wasn't making any runs what so ever, nothing at all. And when he had that great opportunity, of which most strikers would take a touch and shoot at the goal, he passed it back. :wacko: .
Another thing is that our play is really narrow, and hardly any width is there for their full backs to open up on. We're really missing having Theo in the team really, it got too congested in the middle, as their full backs played as centre backs during our attacks.
Hopefully this fires the team up for Liverpool.
A few wins convinced everyone it had all changed, maybe we should have put those results into context until we'd played some of the better teams, just to be sure we're the real deal and this isn't just a false dawn again.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
Yes - I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
Agreed, though 50% of it, is the age old problem of injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
This is where we failed miserably during the summer. That Bendtner is still running moping around in an Arsenal shirt is a damning indictment of our transfer policy. I cannot remember a time in my life where we have had such a toothless strike force.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
We have had some poor sides in my time, but we always seemed to have great quality up front. Until now.
Has it taken this defeat to remember What a hopeless forward Bendtner is or how badly prepared we are in forward options with even Park taking to the field? At least Eto'o was useful at heading the ball away from his goal!
Bendtner being one of our options never even mind Park is a joke.
I was hoping for a bit of a miracle tonight, which didn't happen. We were really narrow at times and I worry we are shaping up for a typical month of November blues.
We are out of the easiest cup to win and I don't think we can win any of the other 3 competitions without improving this situation in January.
I think that's harsh on Giroud, who has been excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
We do lack other options though.
Awful game, very little quality on display.
Jenkinson was slaughtered, doesn't seem like the fans have much faith in him right now.
Bendtner. :haha:
All we can do is pray Bif stays fit.
Disappointing performance considering we had quite a few big players on display. I hope confidence is not affected too much with the big games coming up. Games which I'm thinking we may balls up now.
Flamini getting and staying fit is vital.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He is good at what he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Unfortunately, banging in ~25-30 is not what he brings to the table. Which is what we had for many a year.
I'm not criticising Giroud, but we need someone that can partner him that will take advantage of his hold up play.
Yep, exactly. If we'd started Giroud it's a different game altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Fine lines.
Wenger still hasn't beaten mourinho. That was pretty poor. Never looked like scoring.
I was sceptical about flamini when we signed him but he gives us energy and tenacity and a better tempo. We need theo back to add variety and another goal scorer.
Liverpool next and a real test. Lose that and we could go into freefall and the arsenal crowd can get very moany very quickly.
That's still pretty harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
Even with his build up play, which is genuinely world class, he's still scoring at a rate of 1 in 2.
Super, super quality player.
But we can't start with him all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
Hopefully we'll sort this out in January. You have to believe they will at least try seeing as it would be nuts to outlay all that money on Ozil and not follow that up. If we are still in contention in January, we have a chance.
I actually think we still would have lost with Giroud starting. He is not the sort of forward to get one chance all game and take it and our service today was really poor and Chelsea did score 2. They didn't really go hell for leather for a third because hey......why do that and give The Arsenal a chance on the counter. And they are managed by 'The special one'. He knows 2 goals is all he needs against an Arsenal team.
I'm not being harsh at all. I love what he does, but we need more up front to complement what he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
We've all seen how vital a quality CDM is to our side, and we really need another one in.
Sven/Lars Bender in Jan... funny that the only CDM we have is the one who we didn't replace 5 years ago.
The football we play is still a problem. It is so easy to counter by the best teams. We do not shoot until the nth opportunity. Good players know when to take a shot, but it seems we actively coach this out of our players. If things don't change, then nothing will change. We will keep coming up short at crunch times. Chelsea had like 5 shots on our goal. We just keep passing around the box till we lose the ball and the counter is on. Same shit, different season